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This is gawling alright but to me  the Board should have done the same to him on the day. They cant be that inept can they? I know that almost sounds rhetotical but it leads me to believe they were complicit and up to their necks in it themselves and the convenient line is that they were thrown under the bus. How many cards were in use according to the book? 50?
 
Don't think it was 50 but I do find it hard to believe that they cant trace who the cards were allocated too and take the appropriate action
 
Who in reality would need an FAI credit card in their day to day operations  ?

I can completely believe it, the perfect mess you cant untangle
 
the book does refer to him instructing O shea and Hamilton to put a bar bill in sopot on their CC but still 
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Any way to catch up with this in the UK? Can't see it on the RTE Player 
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Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Any way to catch up with this in the UK? Can't see it on the RTE Player 

If you have any interest, buy the book. I dont think these documentaries do the scale of what Delaney got up to justice
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Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Any way to catch up with this in the UK? Can't see it on the RTE Player 

If you have any interest, buy the book. I dont think these documentaries do the scale of what Delaney got up to justice

Read the book, so would be great to see the doc on the back of that. 
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The hardest thing to stomach is the progress the likes of England and Wales have made in the past decade through vision and professionalism. Great players want to play with other great players, so you can't fault winners like Rice and Grealish for ditching a banana republic organization to be part of a well run operation. 

By the time the debts will be paid off, we'll be back to square one, as 50 years from now, the Aviva stadium will become fully owned by the IRFU. 
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Favourite to take over the English FA according to reports
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Favourite to take over the English FA according to reports

Wishful thinking. Revenge for Skibbereen! 
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Originally posted by Augustus Gloop Augustus Gloop wrote:

The hardest thing to stomach is the progress the likes of England and Wales have made in the past decade through vision and professionalism. Great players want to play with other great players, so you can't fault winners like Rice and Grealish for ditching a banana republic organization to be part of a well run operation. 

By the time the debts will be paid off, we'll be back to square one, as 50 years from now, the Aviva stadium will become fully owned by the IRFU. 
Apart from that Euro semi finals Wales are very similar to us. They relied on Gareth Bale hugely over the last few years and even last month we were the better team against them and they had a lot of championship players in their side aswell. The Sky commentators spent that whole match talking about Kiefer Moore who seemed like some up and coming youngster not a championship player closing in on 30. 
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Originally posted by Donegalman Donegalman wrote:

Originally posted by Augustus Gloop Augustus Gloop wrote:

The hardest thing to stomach is the progress the likes of England and Wales have made in the past decade through vision and professionalism. Great players want to play with other great players, so you can't fault winners like Rice and Grealish for ditching a banana republic organization to be part of a well run operation. 

By the time the debts will be paid off, we'll be back to square one, as 50 years from now, the Aviva stadium will become fully owned by the IRFU. 
Apart from that Euro semi finals Wales are very similar to us. They relied on Gareth Bale hugely over the last few years and even last month we were the better team against them and they had a lot of championship players in their side aswell. The Sky commentators spent that whole match talking about Kiefer Moore who seemed like some up and coming youngster not a championship player closing in on 30. 
International football for 90% of countries is basically "have you got any top class players". Every country has "non-Champions League level players", we had the Keanes, Duffs for our golden generation, wales currently have Bale and Ramsey and are going through their peaks.

Not much in it other than that.
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I'm not referring to whether Wales are better than us in the current moment. The jury is still very much out with them as to whether Giggs is up to the task as manager. But 10 years ago they looked like a pub team on paper yet today they have more technically gifted young players than us coming through the ranks - Dylan Levitt, Daniel James, David Brooks, Ethan Ampadu, Rabbi Matondo, Neco Williams, Harry Wilson and Joe Rodon. I don't know what happened to Ben Woodburn but he was supposed to be the next big thing but injuries appear to have hampered him. 

Not to mention they have a player at Juventus and one that just left Real Madrid. 

Scotland have recently produced 2 youngsters who could be classed as world class level soon - Andrew Robertson and Billy Gilmour, and their contingent of premier league players seems to grow each year. KieranTierney, John McGinn, McTominay, Tom Cairney etc While Mikey Johnston at Celtic is tipped to become something huge.

Under Delaney there seemed to be a focus on getting granny rule players to try and mask the underfunding that was going on at grassroots level football.




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Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Any way to catch up with this in the UK? Can't see it on the RTE Player 

If you have any interest, buy the book. I dont think these documentaries do the scale of what Delaney got up to justice

Read the book, so would be great to see the doc on the back of that. 

rte.ie tv player,  I think it's only available online for Irish viewers, so if you're watching it in England you will need to have a vpn set up to hide your location Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

Originally posted by engpad engpad wrote:

Any way to catch up with this in the UK? Can't see it on the RTE Player 

If you have any interest, buy the book. I dont think these documentaries do the scale of what Delaney got up to justice

Read the book, so would be great to see the doc on the back of that. 

rte.ie tv player,  I think it's only available online for Irish viewers, so if you're watching it in England you will need to have a vpn set up to hide your location Thumbs Up
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One thing I’m surprised isn’t covered by the book or the documentary is the dwindling crowds under his reign. He could’ve escaped financial calamity if we had been filling stadia in the early 2010s and onwards. We had a situation in the early 2000s when it was near on impossible to get home tickets; albeit 30 odd thousand. That grew to upwards of 70k in some games in Croke Park when we weren’t even doing well under Stan. 

Fast forward 6 years to 2013 when we’re paying a manager ridiculous money to play hoof ball and we get 12k at a friendly against Georgia and 20k (of which many were freebies) at the Faroes match. The writing was on the wall and it was financially unviable to have managers on that money and they couldn’t even fill the stadium the CEO prides his tenure over. 

Manager salaries had a huge part to play in the whole fiasco and we got very little value for the money going out


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Good points but the great Denis o Brien Subsidised the Salaries of Trap and O Neill.




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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

One thing I’m surprised isn’t covered by the book or the documentary is the dwindling crowds under his reign. He could’ve escaped financial calamity if we had been filling stadia in the early 2010s and onwards. We had a situation in the early 2000s when it was near on impossible to get home tickets; albeit 30 odd thousand. That grew to upwards of 70k in some games in Croke Park when we weren’t even doing well under Stan. 

Fast forward 6 years to 2013 when we’re paying a manager ridiculous money to play hoof ball and we get 12k at a friendly against Georgia and 20k (of which many were freebies) at the Faroes match. The writing was on the wall and it was financially unviable to have managers on that money and they couldn’t even fill the stadium the CEO prides his tenure over. 

Manager salaries had a huge part to play in the whole fiasco and we got very little value for the money going out
Good point. When ya look at the attendances, there was definitely a much bigger following back then. I hoped at the time the trip to Poland would get a new generation interested in going, but it never really materialised. 

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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

One thing I’m surprised isn’t covered by the book or the documentary is the dwindling crowds under his reign. He could’ve escaped financial calamity if we had been filling stadia in the early 2010s and onwards. We had a situation in the early 2000s when it was near on impossible to get home tickets; albeit 30 odd thousand. That grew to upwards of 70k in some games in Croke Park when we weren’t even doing well under Stan. 

Fast forward 6 years to 2013 when we’re paying a manager ridiculous money to play hoof ball and we get 12k at a friendly against Georgia and 20k (of which many were freebies) at the Faroes match. The writing was on the wall and it was financially unviable to have managers on that money and they couldn’t even fill the stadium the CEO prides his tenure over. 

Manager salaries had a huge part to play in the whole fiasco and we got very little value for the money going out
 
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