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The FAI were Delaney's donkey.

Delaney's Donkey:
'Now Delaney had a donkey that everyone admired
Temporarily lazy and permanently tired
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And a tail to let you know which end he wanted to be fed'
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Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in
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Originally posted by Charlton's Child Charlton's Child wrote:

FAI in crisis: €10m safety net on table


https://www.independent.ie/irish-news/fai-in-crisis-10m-safety-net-on-table-38116838.html

 
That's JD's payoff sorted so
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

That's JD's payoff sorted so
 

first thing i thought as well LOL
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Tbf we should be booted out of uefa/fifa competitions for two years. Its unfair that we are being propped up by uefa while continuing to pay top dollar to our mnt manager. 
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Surely our Honorary Life President would be happy to stump up the cash for our manager?
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Tbf we should be booted out of uefa/fifa competitions for two years. Its unfair that we are being propped up by uefa while continuing to pay top dollar to our mnt manager. 

The frauds who ran our game including Jd , The Board and both councils Are the ones who should suffer and be made an example of with jail terms.
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Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in

Why would the GAA or the IRFU even consider that? They don't care about the FAI and want their brands associated with that rotten organisation as little as possible. Both are organisations run correctly with the top dog in each getting very moderate salaries compared to the top dog in the FAI. Which ultimately means a lot more money going to grass routes over the years. 


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Originally posted by gufct gufct wrote:

Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Tbf we should be booted out of uefa/fifa competitions for two years. Its unfair that we are being propped up by uefa while continuing to pay top dollar to our mnt manager. 

The frauds who ran our game including Jd , The Board and both councils Are the ones who should suffer and be made an example of with jail terms.
Exactly. Why should players and fans be effectively penalised? They weren't the ones cooking the books or feathering their own nests at everyone else' expense. 
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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in

Why would the GAA or the IRFU even consider that? They don't care about the FAI and want their brands associated with that rotten organisation as little as possible. Both are organisations run correctly with the top dog in each getting very moderate salaries compared to the top dog in the FAI. Which ultimately means a lot more money going to grass routes over the years. 



What type of salary does the top dog in the GAA get? I didn’t think that sort of information was public knowledge.

The GAA are undoubtedly a more professional organisation than the FAI (that wouldn’t be hard) and know how to generate a large income, but I’m not sure they have the level of integrity or transparency that some might perceive them to have.

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Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in

Why would the GAA or the IRFU even consider that? They don't care about the FAI and want their brands associated with that rotten organisation as little as possible. Both are organisations run correctly with the top dog in each getting very moderate salaries compared to the top dog in the FAI. Which ultimately means a lot more money going to grass routes over the years. 

I think you will find more underhand payments in the gaa than anything ,it's well hidden though , the thing is they aren't really accountable to anyone , some of those county managers are on six figure salaries and more , but it never gets talked about and Nobody cares! 
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What about getting the church in to run it? They have been dealing with cover-ups and scandals for years and as a business have been very professional. I would also imagine they have a keen interest in our underage teams.
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Originally posted by royal rover royal rover wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in

Why would the GAA or the IRFU even consider that? They don't care about the FAI and want their brands associated with that rotten organisation as little as possible. Both are organisations run correctly with the top dog in each getting very moderate salaries compared to the top dog in the FAI. Which ultimately means a lot more money going to grass routes over the years. 

I think you will find more underhand payments in the gaa than anything ,it's well hidden though , the thing is they aren't really accountable to anyone , some of those county managers are on six figure salaries and more , but it never gets talked about and Nobody cares! 

Its going on in GAA at every level. Average club teams in Louth paying 10,000-15,000 a year on managers/coaches
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So John "a few Bob for the rent" O'Regan of the Kerry League and an FAI Council member is still praising JD.  How many more revelations have to come out about JD before the penny drops.


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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

cheers Dave .Explained like that yeh makes sense

Big issue I have is with their use of the word coownership over and over again. It's a typical JD use of words. It's suggests everything is split between fai and irfu. When essentially it isn't

Also we will never find out the exact detail of the contract I'm sure and I'd be surprised if it's not in the irfus favour



But it is split as they are co-owners.

Any events, use of corporate suites, concerts, basically anything outside of football/rugby matches is split between the associations.


So the deal is that the FAI get football revenue, the IRFU get rugby revenue and all other revenue is split 50/50? That seems a fair enough deal. I'm guessing that was at the IRFU's behest, given that they probably generate more revenue than the FAI do. They are basically guaranteed five or six full houses each calendar year, between the Six Nations, Autumn internationals and one or two big Leinster games. It's more than the FAI and the IRFU were the ones with the whip hand when the deal was being done back in 2005 or thereabouts.
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Originally posted by JohnSwift JohnSwift wrote:

Originally posted by eireland eireland wrote:

Originally posted by OohAah... OohAah... wrote:

Part of me thinks Id rather UEFA didnt step in and the FAI was disbanded with a  veiw to build a new organisation again. Same after a revolution in a country generally things start afresh again with a clean bill of health before they get rotten again.

I did suggest the GAA take over and got rightly sl*gged off for it. Or the IFA and same same, but I actually trust them more than I do the FAI reforming themselves over the long term. 2 associations with a dislike for football in the republic, could actually do a better job of running it than the FAI themselves. Just think of that.

However with jobs on the line maybe its better UEFA step in

Why would the GAA or the IRFU even consider that? They don't care about the FAI and want their brands associated with that rotten organisation as little as possible. Both are organisations run correctly with the top dog in each getting very moderate salaries compared to the top dog in the FAI. Which ultimately means a lot more money going to grass routes over the years. 



What type of salary does the top dog in the GAA get? I didn’t think that sort of information was public knowledge.

The GAA are undoubtedly a more professional organisation than the FAI (that wouldn’t be hard) and know how to generate a large income, but I’m not sure they have the level of integrity or transparency that some might perceive them to have.



As I understand it, and as I think is general knowledge, is that they are employed on secondment. President, or whatever the title is, is a position appointed following an election. However, it is a full time role and is generally filled by people who were previously volunteers and who have other jobs. The role is for, I think, three years only. While in the role, they continue to receive their salary from their own job but the GAA reimburse the employer for that period.

So, for example, if you are elected for a three year term but have a job that pays you €75,000 grand a year as a head teacher (sake of argument), the GAA will pay your school or the department or whoever €75k each year and you will continue to receive your salary as normal, plus (from the GAA) whatever expenses are necessarily incurred as part of the job as President. That was certainly the position when Christy Cooney was president, as reflected here: https://www.irishexaminer.com/sport/gaa/cooney-defends-presidential-pay-152683.html

Now, there are full time staff in the GAA, and I don't know what the salary of the most senior person there is. I think Paraic Duffy was in a full time role there as some sort of director (Director General I believe); I think he is left now & I don't know what his salary was and I think that is not public knowledge. The structure is somewhat different from the FAI's however, and the President of the GAA certainly has more power than the Chairman of the Board of the FAI, which is probably the closest comparable position. The closest role to Delaney's is probably the role Duffy had, but that probably has less power than the role Delaney had post-Genesis.

So, in short, the salary of the Director General of the GAA does not appear to be public knowledge but the salary of the President is the same as whatever it was in their job before they were President. It's not comparing like with like but it does give some idea.
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The Director General salary was published and compared with IRFU and FAI knowledge by Vincent Hogan in the Indo not too long ago around sh*t hit the fan for Delaney
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Both of them were around the €125,000 to €150,000 range about a he same jd would spend on his Fai cc every 18 months.
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