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Great to see Brady off the panel, he's defending of Trapatoni was disgraceful and kept him in the job after Euro 2012.
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No it isn't. Only one who should be off the panel is that prick Dunphy. Always looks for something to bitch about
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Didi is great analyst ...................as far as analysis goes.............i love didi'sCensored

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Didi talks a lot of sense and gives a very balanced and unbiased view. However, Dunphy, Brady and Sadlier are only interested in slating our manager, team selections and performances. If they are going to be on the panel, there needs to be someone there to defend MON's selections and tactics much like Trap had with Brady.

Without balance, it's 3 auld ones moaning and I get enough of that around in the mother-in-laws. At least there I get tea and cake!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Denis Irwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 2016 at 11:05am
Really like Didi. Should use him a lot more for Ireland games. Gives a neutral view.
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Didi is a great pundit
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Duff doesn't seem like a MON fan. Criticised the long ball tactic and the treatment of Hoolahan. Said MON never likes talking about him and never pays him a compliment.
Shades of Charlton with Liam Brady and then Ronnie Whelan.
 
 
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Is Duff still awful as a pundit?
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Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Great to see Brady off the panel, he's defending of Trapatoni was disgraceful and kept him in the job after Euro 2012.

The difficulty was that Trappatoni divided opinion greatly, and I actually think Brady was a sample of those who saw us as having a World Class manager, that we could never actually do better in terms of who we could find to manage the country.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Great to see Brady off the panel, he's defending of Trapatoni was disgraceful and kept him in the job after Euro 2012.
The difficulty was that Trappatoni divided opinion greatly, and I actually think Brady was a sample of those who saw us as having a World Class manager, that we could never actually do better in terms of who we could find to manage the country.
To the trained eye, so did Charlton but we were just happy to be qualifying at last.
 
Those homes games v Scotland & Belgium for 88 and Poland for 92 were horrendous spectacles.
 
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Originally posted by Gary McKay Gary McKay wrote:

To the trained eye, so did Charlton but we were just happy to be qualifying at last.
 
Those homes games v Scotland & Belgium for 88 and Poland for 92 were horrendous spectacles.
 

True, but in reality it took 8 years before the system which Charlton employed so well started to come undone. One might forgive the US Cup '92 if what was written is to be believed, and that the uravelling started at the 1994 World Cup (with the Spain game as a precursor). On the other hand, Trappatoni's system unravelled before our eyes in 2010 against Russia, before we spent a full year getting beaten, and beaten heavily in some games. It took a fraction of the time for the limited game played by Trapp to be exposed.
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Didi s the man, always has makes a point worth listening to with a balanced view
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Is Duff still awful as a pundit?

Compared to his shyness a few years ago, I actually thought he was very good the other night
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Trappatoni's system unravelled before our eyes in 2010 against Russia, before we spent a full year getting beaten, and beaten heavily in some games.


Interesting, let's do a results check.

Since October 2010:

v Slovakia (a) Vital point
v Norway (h) Narrow loss
v Wales (h) Comprehensive win
v Macedonia (h) Early goal, important win
v Uruguay (h) Entertaining game, narrow loss.
v you brits in green (h) Demolition job
v Scotland (h) First trophy won in 25 years
v Macedonia (a) Revenge for 99
v Italy (n) Great win
v Croatia (h) Draw
v Slovakia (h) Vital point, head to head advantage
v Russia (a) Historic point
v Andorra (a) Job done
v Armenia (h) Play off qualification

So before our eyes, several historic results another year unbeaten away from home, no competitive defeats, 6 months unbeaten, a trophy in the cabinet, and rocketing rankings, which then allowed us to go to Estonia and hockey them in their own backyard to qualify us for our first tournament in 10 years. Contrary to the above quote, it was a highly successful year.

Contrast that to the recent Euros where losing half the games, conceding double more than scored, suffering one of the heaviest defeats in just 20 minutes, and being "tired" with 20-30 minutes of games remaining, constituted a "great tournament".

Give me the 2011 year any day.
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LOLLOLLOL aye we'd all much rather relive a qualifying campaign than getting out of a group at the Euros LOL clown
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Trappatoni's system unravelled before our eyes in 2010 against Russia, before we spent a full year getting beaten, and beaten heavily in some games.


Interesting, let's do a results check.

Since October 2010:

v Slovakia (a) Vital point
v Norway (h) Narrow loss
v Wales (h) Comprehensive win
v Macedonia (h) Early goal, important win
v Uruguay (h) Entertaining game, narrow loss.
v you brits in green (h) Demolition job
v Scotland (h) First trophy won in 25 years
v Macedonia (a) Revenge for 99
v Italy (n) Great win
v Croatia (h) Draw
v Slovakia (h) Vital point, head to head advantage
v Russia (a) Historic point
v Andorra (a) Job done
v Armenia (h) Play off qualification

So before our eyes, several historic results another year unbeaten away from home, no competitive defeats, 6 months unbeaten, a trophy in the cabinet, and rocketing rankings, which then allowed us to go to Estonia and hockey them in their own backyard to qualify us for our first tournament in 10 years. Contrary to the above quote, it was a highly successful year.

Contrast that to the recent Euros where losing half the games, conceding double more than scored, suffering one of the heaviest defeats in just 20 minutes, and being "tired" with 20-30 minutes of games remaining, constituted a "great tournament".

Give me the 2011 year any day.

The fact that Ireland had six months unbeaten could only be called miraculous. The away game to Russia was in no way a confident defensive performance, rather a mixture of last ditch blocking, tackling and Russians scratching their heads wondering if the laws of physics had been altered. I'm not saying that the Russians weren't better than Ireland, but the gulf in class wasn't so great that clinging on to a 0-0 like grim death and riding your luck could be considered some great achievement. 

That Slovakia game at home was considered very much to be 2 points dropped at the time. It was a really turgid display from Ireland that night where Slovakia were allowed to totally boss the game over 90 minutes. At last in the Georgia game just gone, we saw at least one player take a moment of magic, something a little bit inspirational. 

That Celtic Cup thing was a bit of a farce, let's be honest. It was nice to see Ireland lift the only silverware we'll probably ever see in our lifetimes, unless there's a similar tournament, but Northern Ireland, Wales and Scotland were all pretty terrible that year. Would those teams really have objected too much if they'd been spared the bus and ferry fees and Ireland just gave themselves the trophy before a ball was kicked? 

Good win against Italy in a friendly, but if Brian Kerr's time taught me anything, it's that friendly wins provide no comfort when you're staring down the barrel of a competitive exit. Because of the nature of such games, they're not even a reliable barometer of whether or not a team is improving. 

When you look back on 2011, there wasn't really a single inspirational moment in competitive play. Not a single game where you could say the team was really progressing. This all became very apparent in the Euros of the following year. 
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Trappatoni's system unravelled before our eyes in 2010 against Russia, before we spent a full year getting beaten, and beaten heavily in some games.


Interesting, let's do a results check.

Since October 2010:

v Slovakia (a) Vital point
v Norway (h) Narrow loss
v Wales (h) Comprehensive win
v Macedonia (h) Early goal, important win
v Uruguay (h) Entertaining game, narrow loss.
v you brits in green (h) Demolition job
v Scotland (h) First trophy won in 25 years
v Macedonia (a) Revenge for 99
v Italy (n) Great win
v Croatia (h) Draw
v Slovakia (h) Vital point, head to head advantage
v Russia (a) Historic point
v Andorra (a) Job done
v Armenia (h) Play off qualification

So before our eyes, several historic results another year unbeaten away from home, no competitive defeats, 6 months unbeaten, a trophy in the cabinet, and rocketing rankings, which then allowed us to go to Estonia and hockey them in their own backyard to qualify us for our first tournament in 10 years. Contrary to the above quote, it was a highly successful year.

Contrast that to the recent Euros where losing half the games, conceding double more than scored, suffering one of the heaviest defeats in just 20 minutes, and being "tired" with 20-30 minutes of games remaining, constituted a "great tournament".

Give me the 2011 year any day.
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Originally posted by Irish2011 Irish2011 wrote:

Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Trappatoni's system unravelled before our eyes in 2010 against Russia, before we spent a full year getting beaten, and beaten heavily in some games.


Interesting, let's do a results check.

Since October 2010:

v Slovakia (a) Vital point
v Norway (h) Narrow loss
v Wales (h) Comprehensive win
v Macedonia (h) Early goal, important win
v Uruguay (h) Entertaining game, narrow loss.
v you brits in green (h) Demolition job
v Scotland (h) First trophy won in 25 years
v Macedonia (a) Revenge for 99
v Italy (n) Great win
v Croatia (h) Draw
v Slovakia (h) Vital point, head to head advantage
v Russia (a) Historic point
v Andorra (a) Job done
v Armenia (h) Play off qualification

So before our eyes, several historic results another year unbeaten away from home, no competitive defeats, 6 months unbeaten, a trophy in the cabinet, and rocketing rankings, which then allowed us to go to Estonia and hockey them in their own backyard to qualify us for our first tournament in 10 years. Contrary to the above quote, it was a highly successful year.

Contrast that to the recent Euros where losing half the games, conceding double more than scored, suffering one of the heaviest defeats in just 20 minutes, and being "tired" with 20-30 minutes of games remaining, constituted a "great tournament".

Give me the 2011 year any day.
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