- McGeady brilliantly making the space for Wes to get the cross in in the first place

- Hendrick's unbelievable technique

- O'Shea's top, top finish.

Now I'm a fan of Wes but I'm calling this as it is. These lads stooped to a new low last night. It was pathetic.

Agree with most of what the panel said McGeady was lost in the first half in this so called free role he's a winger.

Whelan offers nothing and it is unfair to continue to deply Walters as a right winger he's a striker - Gibson is a much better alternative a defensive midfielder who can spray the ball about let's hope he can break into the Everton team.

MON has had an excellent start to his first qualification group

Crossroads me bollocks

Talking through his bollox,"crossroads"FFS,Our first chance wasn't the 85th minute neither,Or does that suit your agenda to say so.

 

THIS !

Liam Brady 'We must not forget we have a team with a large amount of Championship players, take our full back David Meyler for example' 

Idiots the lot of them. 

Heard that as well. 

Brady's been as bad as the other two the last couple of games

The crossroads I'm talking about is which way we are going to play going forward specifically away from home - with creative or flair players? Or the way we played for 70 minutes last night where we sit back and invite teams to come at us and we employ players who continuously give the ball away in midfield; Whelan and Quinn are grafters but their distribution is awful.

I'm not saying we have had a bad start it's a great start to the campaign...I just hope Martin shows faith in those players that were sprung from the bench.

I was watching on Sky and they were saying basically that if Ireland stick to the game plan we might nick something and then about 10 mins before kick off I turned on RTE and hear every one of them declare that we have 'no chance'

 

After the match was just embarassing. They they went you'd swear Ireland were ranked 2 in the world and Germany ranked first. I mean this constant rattle about Wes Hoolahan.....he came on and was utter crap. Gave the ball away far too many times, yet the 3 lads still rattled on about him like Pele.

 

If we set up the way the RTE panel were preachingwe'd have been 5 down at half time.

 

I would like to boogy woogy on their heads, the analysis they provided last night was simply a joke.

Horses for courses. Last night was our toughest game of the group, we had to go with grafters, a rigid gameplan and ten men behind the ball. It was never going to be pretty. We got a point, excellent outcome and probably more than any other team will get in Germany in this group once they get their big names back. 

All these managers for club and country can't have been wrong about Hoolahan. He's a tidy player yes, but I agree with only playing him in certain games or introducing him at certain times. It was right not to start him last night.

We may have got a bit of luck but we got a result that wasn't expected from us.

Yes but we played the same system against Georgia and were blessed.

It will be very interesting to see what way he lines up v Scotland that's all I'm saying hopefully he shows a bit of faith and we let the shackles off similiar to the last 20 mins last night.

I genuinely think they have a script before the game regardless of the result. People watch dunphy for the sensational reactions he gives and I'd prefer if my tv licence wasn't paying him

Yes that's what NewryRep is saying these were all created post the 70th minute and our first clear cut chance was Hoolahan in the 86th minute.

I think our first corner was in the 85th minute for christ sake.

Why the fook didn't we have a go from the off?

Because they would have picked us off on the counter attack when our moves broke down, indeed anytime we attacked in the second half and lost the ball in the final third the Germans looked dangerous when breaking away, their goal came from this also. 

We had a game plan and it worked, to an extent. We did limit them to long range efforts for most of it, but some of our play was just awful. Especially in the first half.

Just passing to each other seemed too hard a task, everyone seemed to panic when they got the ball to feet, especially at the back.

Was it Ward that went to boot the ball clear as hard as he could and it whacked McClean in the back of the head and fell kindly to Forde.

 

Nearly alright. His ploy with McGeady was a mistake, he doesn't seem suited to that role at all.

 

His substitutions however worked really well and considering we hadn't Shamie or McCarthy, this was a great bit of work from O'Neill.

Giles is finished with 10 years he does no research on teams only focuses on flair midfield palyers if had his way we would have Andy Reid and Wes in centre mid.

Brady is just an insufferable miserable man.

You would have to be pretty petty to have too much to gripe about after that fabulous result and reading the posts above I think its a mixture of all the points made.

*We were poor in the first 75 mins - The simple passing and ball retention was amateur at best. Really hard to watch such basic errors made one after another - ultimately making our task of 'keeping it tight' so much harder.

*We did defend like trojans though, the lads put their bodies on the line and put in a serious amount of work which was needed to match a team of Germany's calibre. Forde hasn't been mentioned much here but one cock up aside, he was excellent and kept us in the game. It looked like it was quickly going to become 2,3, 4.....Thankfully he was up to the task and keeping it a 1-0 meant we always had a slim chance.

* Thankfully the Germans didn't have their shooting (or heading) boots on either - Should have definitely scored two headed goals in the first half.

*The enforced sub brought about a renewed energy - the lads were hunting in packs to get the ball back, Germany started making a few mistakes and gaps started appearing.

* MayoMark called it spot on. Wes did okay and was part of the goal and the positive last 15 mins that we had but I hope he doesn't take any notice of the crock of $hit rte analysis. Hendrick's role in that goal was the key bit - he made a poor'ish cross in to a goal opportunity which JOSH stuck away with aplomb.

Fabulous point though - Sets next months game up nicely.....

Just managed to secure 8 tix of the SFA website as a backup in case the FAI ones don't come through.

Hoskins quoted too

 

When i watched the RTE post match analysis, i honestly thought i cliciked on an old episode. They were clearly talking about a different match. No way. Starting off with Brady waffling on about cohesion. Dunphy calling the player selections/positions "a joke", and Giles repeating himself 7 or 8 times about good sporting attitude.... He even kept repeating himself saying hes repeating himself! Thats not being harsh thats the reality of what was said last night. Thank you lads for the memories over te past 20 odd years, but its time for a revamp. It should have been done with Bill leaving.

Just to raise a point on the Sky coverage... Sky aim their football analysis at people who don't understand football or who just want to be told everything is great, it is analysis dumbed down...its a sales job - that's all.

The RTE lads can be annoying not knowing how many of the side play in the championship etc and Dunphy can go over the top...but their main assertion last night was correct.

We didn't play at all well for 75 / 80 mins, we didn't pick lads who could pass the ball (you would think a basic requirement at this level but there you go) and consequently we couldn't hold onto the ball. At times it was embarrassing when we kept having to go back to Forde...simply couldn't find a team mate.

We only changed when we went a goal down...Gibson...Hoolohan etc ...if we had the right attitude and have belief in ourselves we would have started the way we finished but we didn't, and that attitude comes from the top down. 

 

Im not happy with mediocrity,but I have long had the opinion these lads are gonbe past it. They have championed Hoolahan as a game changer last night, where as before the over hit cross for the goal I thought he was dreadful, he butchered a 3 v2, he lost the ball, didnt work back. Dunphy then goes onto to laud his performance. I actually agree we should have tried to attack a little more but we could have being picked off on the counter by Germany so playing rope a dope may have worked for us. Id imagine most of us would have picked different team to O'Neill last night I certainly would have, but that is not a stick to beat him with after a decent result.

 

But it was the second half where i did start to see the shape that served us so well begin to falter, and gaps began to appear.

These lads working for rte these days so no chance

 

They looked tired

They lacked any kind of creativity

They made the same old mistakes time and time again

A lack of concentration at crucial times during the match

 

All in all, a Very Disappointing performance by the Panel.

 

 

 

 

 

As for the team......

 

Jaysus. The first 65 minutes set Ireland up for the last 25! Absolutely solid team selection, solid performance all through.  We can argue about who is better, but MON and

 

Houlihan WAS pants last night and only for Hendo for the goal, the cross was going well away from danger.

 

7 points from 9 is a terrific start.

 

 

 

 

Sadly this is not the first time that there has been a disconnect between Irish fans and those in the Media

That's ridiculous. They spouted out the usual crap again last night and had Whelan written off when they wrote their script pre-match

 

WTF man?  He was tidy, got around the pitch well and while not as eye-catching as Georgia, did a fine job.  Not at fault for the goal despite Ronnie Whelan's assertion he was.

 

I dunno, some of yiz bemoan the lack of quality we have, yet yiz then want us to go toe to toe with the World Champions by out-passing them, in their own back yard!  Without Coleman and McCarthy! 

 

How many times did they carve us open?  In the 45th minute, when Forde saved at his near post and then at 1-0 when Forde denied Goetze.  They scored from long range and then with 20 minutes to claw a goal back, responded superbly.

 

Some of yiz will never be happy.  Dunphy's sh*te has spread Ebola-like to Giles, Brady, Whelan and that tool Hamilton.  It'll be Sky from now on for me.

 

Jesus them days were AMAZING! Much better than the dire straits we are in now. Joint top of the table with 7 points and 10 goals from 3 games, including holding the Worlds number 1 team to a draw on their own turf. Christ we are RUBBISH!

 

Sack MON! Sack Keane! Sack em all! Bunch of wanks!

Careful now, you'll be getting a reputation...

 

At least O'Neill had a plan B when the Germans scored, something we have patently lacked previously.  By  no means are we the finished article, there's plenty of room for improvement in our general play and the McGeady in the hole ploy didn't and won't work.   For the panel to say Wes made the goal is just wrong and he messed up promising positions a few times in his 15 minute appearance, no mention of that (and by the way I'm a huge fan of Weso).  Whelan did a terrific job in front of O'Shea and Wilson till he got injured, Dunphy has descended to personal stuff towards Whelan, he's the joke now, fookwit.

 

It's the constant nit-picking that is now patently obvious among Brady, Giles and Dunphy that has me now sick of the three of them.  Sadlier is not afraid to call them on their nonsense and they don't like it one bit and Brian Kerr always gives balanced and proper knowledge when he's on.

 

As said elsewhere, when Bill went, the others should've been put out to grass also.