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Ray Houghton
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 Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 11:27pm |
RTE have a wide range of panelists. From players who have a collection of trophies and medals, such as Hamann and Brady, to box tickers such as Roche whose sole achievement is scoring a goal for Peamount United in front of about 20 people. That apparently qualifies her to a starring role on the Irish punditry circuit.
Then there's the ex 2FM DJ presenter who believes that the time of Klopp is coming to an end, and Doyler who believes that Klopp will be gone from Liverpool in 2024 as originally planned.
It makes Roy Keane and his on air screeching competitions with his fellow pundits, seem a refreshing alternative.
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BabbsBalls
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 10:57pm |
Seems like a decent lad alrignt.
Would prefer someone more argumentative as a pundit though.
Edited by BabbsBalls - 01 Dec 2022 at 10:57pm
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l hear you are a racist now, father ?
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 10:36pm |
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lovely fella . Never the greatest footballer but nicer guy you couldn’t meet . His missus was a nice girl too - with each other about twenty years too . Helga . If she was that intelligent she wouldn’t have been in maynooth �£ |
Are you the guy that claims to intimately know every second Irish national team player? Dublin isn't that small!
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lovely fella . Never the greatest footballer but nicer guy you couldn’t meet . His missus was a nice girl too - with each other about twenty years too . Helga . If she was that intelligent she wouldn’t have been in maynooth 🤣
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The O'Shea
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 9:51pm |
ProudIrish wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis. |
Seems like a nice chap but he comes across as a bit dim, the points he makes are always stating the obvious. Never really offers any insight or interesting points. Hes not the worst on co comms but in studio hes poor, just agrees with everything, never offers and counter arguments or an opinion of his own. His analysis and tactical insight is very basic too for an ex professional who played at the level he did for as long as he did. |
Knew Stephen from seeing him around Maynooth. His girlfriend went to college there. Can confirm she was the brains of the operation. |
Totally unfair. I was in school with Stephen and he was very academic and if it wasn’t football would have no doubt excelled academically. |
Absolutely. I remember he gave some very good interviews back when he was playing about the subtle racism himself and his dad faced due to being mixed race, and his dad overcoming a challenging upbringing in general. Clearly a fairly articulate person.
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We're decent enough..
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Hotlips_Hoolahan
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 9:46pm |
ProudIrish wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis. |
Seems like a nice chap but he comes across as a bit dim, the points he makes are always stating the obvious. Never really offers any insight or interesting points. Hes not the worst on co comms but in studio hes poor, just agrees with everything, never offers and counter arguments or an opinion of his own. His analysis and tactical insight is very basic too for an ex professional who played at the level he did for as long as he did. |
Knew Stephen from seeing him around Maynooth. His girlfriend went to college there. Can confirm she was the brains of the operation. |
Totally unfair. I was in school with Stephen and he was very academic and if it wasn’t football would have no doubt excelled academically. |
Ah yeah, I'm sure he is. She was very intelligent though.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 9:34pm |
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
Bandwagon wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis. |
Seems like a nice chap but he comes across as a bit dim, the points he makes are always stating the obvious. Never really offers any insight or interesting points. Hes not the worst on co comms but in studio hes poor, just agrees with everything, never offers and counter arguments or an opinion of his own. His analysis and tactical insight is very basic too for an ex professional who played at the level he did for as long as he did. |
Knew Stephen from seeing him around Maynooth. His girlfriend went to college there. Can confirm she was the brains of the operation. |
Totally unfair. I was in school with Stephen and he was very academic and if it wasn’t football would have no doubt excelled academically.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 6:16pm |
t_rAndy wrote:
Women are annoying to listen to in general. Anyone who is married should know that. |
Doesn't help that most Irish women sound like Janice from Friends now, especially when they have drink on board.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 5:36pm |
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Women are annoying to listen to in general. Anyone who is married should know that.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 5:08pm |
Baldrick wrote:
Rte sport don’t promote a culture of strong opinions. It’s why the rugby gaa and football panels have all changed and are now drab affairs. It’s not even about who the panellists are. It’s what sort of tone is encouraged from the top. Ironically sky has become more opinionated to a point with Keane and Carragher and Souness and Neville. |
Sadlier is about the strongest of opinions they have there, but there usually isn't anyone to challenge him like to old days. brady about the only one who'd get in an argument with him
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 4:39pm |
Bandwagon wrote:
The O'Shea wrote:
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis. |
Seems like a nice chap but he comes across as a bit dim, the points he makes are always stating the obvious. Never really offers any insight or interesting points. Hes not the worst on co comms but in studio hes poor, just agrees with everything, never offers and counter arguments or an opinion of his own. His analysis and tactical insight is very basic too for an ex professional who played at the level he did for as long as he did. |
Knew Stephen from seeing him around Maynooth. His girlfriend went to college there. Can confirm she was the brains of the operation.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 4:36pm |
The O'Shea wrote:
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis. |
Seems like a nice chap but he comes across as a bit dim, the points he makes are always stating the obvious. Never really offers any insight or interesting points. Hes not the worst on co comms but in studio hes poor, just agrees with everything, never offers and counter arguments or an opinion of his own. His analysis and tactical insight is very basic too for an ex professional who played at the level he did for as long as he did.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 4:20pm |
Shedite wrote:
RTE have completely changed their attitude. It was 4 grumpy old men, replicating the "watching it in the local" atmosphere. Much like the newer generation don't sit at the bar, they also don't want to watch drunk lads analysing WC games and cursing their way through it. I'm sure most of us would prefer it, but lets be fair, the old panel were far past it. We're remembering the good auld days of 20 years ago.
With regards the new panel, I don't find it entertaining either, but are there other analysts out there they could have got? Didi, Brady, Sadlier are good IMO, Cunningham and Duff aren't my cup of tea but presumable pass the "they played at a standard" checkbox. Kelly can at least talk which is more than most ex-pros. I enjoy Crawley and Stewy Byrne on comms, Fenlon not so much for me.
On the ladies side, we all know it's forced, but it's the world we live in. "See it to Be it" and all that. We need ANY female anaylsys now, so that we have good ones in 10 years time. Lisa Fallon is the best but I haven't seen her yet on TV.
Before you bash my take, let me know if there are really better analysts that RTE could have got.
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Don't get the abuse Kelly gets at all, people seem to get wound up by his minor lisp rather than what he actually says, which is usually decent enough analysis.
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We're decent enough..
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 4:04pm |
Fozz wrote:
Saint Tom wrote:
Another issue is the broadcast quality on rte.
Over Freesat your getting bbc and itv with crisper picture and 5.1 Dolby sound. The requirements of saorview of rubbish by comparison. Low quality stereo Audio and but even hd bar rte 1 and 2. |
Try watching the secondary match on the RTE News channel.
By Jaysus, like watching Mexico 86, without the good bits. |
Don't know how they don't offer that channel in HD. Might look ok on the old 14" portable if anyone still has one!
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 3:48pm |
Fozz wrote:
Saint Tom wrote:
Another issue is the broadcast quality on rte.
Over Freesat your getting bbc and itv with crisper picture and 5.1 Dolby sound. The requirements of saorview of rubbish by comparison. Low quality stereo Audio and but even hd bar rte 1 and 2. |
Try watching the secondary match on the RTE News channel.
By Jaysus, like watching Mexico 86, without the good bits. |
I'm using a DNS proxy which unblocks BBC iPlayer and watching games in 4k on that. So much better.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 3:04pm |
FrankosHereNow wrote:
Should just be honest and say you don’t respect women’s opinions on football.
Arsenal Wenger and Jose Mourinho never played elite level football. I guess they’re not up to the required level for RTE pundits either: |
I'd give managers who won multiple premier leagues and champions leagues a pass on footballing knowledge.
What an absolute mare you've had here. 
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 2:05pm |
Saint Tom wrote:
Another issue is the broadcast quality on rte.
Over Freesat your getting bbc and itv with crisper picture and 5.1 Dolby sound. The requirements of saorview of rubbish by comparison. Low quality stereo Audio and but even hd bar rte 1 and 2. |
Try watching the secondary match on the RTE News channel.
By Jaysus, like watching Mexico 86, without the good bits.
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Posted: 01 Dec 2022 at 1:55pm |
Saint Tom wrote:
Another issue is the broadcast quality on rte.
Over Freesat your getting bbc and itv with crisper picture and 5.1 Dolby sound. The requirements of saorview of rubbish by comparison. Low quality stereo Audio and but even hd bar rte 1 and 2. |
Agree. They've really gone to the dogs.
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