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zizu Kilbane
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Seems to have gone under the radar here, but Kenny's young fella Eoin is also in the squad, having previously been called up by the North
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Green Cockade
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Likewise Conor Barr of Derry City.
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Luis Amor Rodriguez
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Good to see Sean Moore called up at U19 - right enough.
However, out of a U19 squad of 36 home-based players, it's disproportionate to have only 2 that are based in the North. Potentially approx 20% of our home-based players should come from there (on a rough-take of demographics). The FAI should really focus on getting more lads from the 6 counties involved at a young age.
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10 Box
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Ollie O'Neill loan to Derry. Good move.
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Artie Ziff
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Nah, just let the IFA coach them and we poach em Hi Terri
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It would damage this forums' reputation
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King_Kenny
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I wonder did they try for Paddy Kelly West Ham. Although where he’s from could definitely make any switch difficult.
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Green Cockade
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Kelly has been involved with NI underage football since he was about 10, as has his West Ham colleague Callum Marshall who was with Linfield. He also knew another NI underage player now with West Ham-Michael Forbes, formerly of Dungannon Swifts. They helped persuade him to join West Ham. I don’t know if the FAI has spoken to him though he has already represented NI at under-19 level. He would be a very good acquisition if he did switch.
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Nialler
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Nice being able to subcontract out our coaching work.
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J89
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Good that he'll be playing senior football for the rest of the season. Good half a season and could lead to a better loan move in the summer. |
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The O'Shea
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What are we meant to do? The FAI can't set up where the lad is from. They're getting him in at 17 now, which is still very young, so I'd say that's about as good as they can do.
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We're decent enough..
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mully_85
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Forbes at West Ham is from Ardboe area in East Tyrone and from a GAA background… wouldn’t take much persuasion from an approach from the FAI
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Green Cockade
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Maybe Moore will talk to him. Latest on Moore is that Newcastle offered to match the West Ham bid during the window, Brighton and Celtic also very keen but Cliftonville wanted to hold on to him until the summer to aid their League and Cup campaigns and no doubt also to profit from a likely bidding competition then from interested clubs.
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JoxerDaly
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Sean McAllister at Everton and Cormac Austin at Palace also.
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pateen
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The Fulham lad?
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Eoink21
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Trying to do a little more digging and I see his parents' names are Conor and Ciara . You say it wouldn't take much persuasion but our squads are hardly inundated at present with lads from the six counties. One point on Moore which I hate making but is worth considering is that he hasn't played competitively for NI. If things don't work out for him with us then he can settle for NI in the future if they are willing to pick him at senior level and we are not. That means he doesn't get his name unfairly bandied about by Michael O'Neill like when he decided to pull a Nelson Muntz-like "haha" on Daniel Devine for not going to the Euros with NI because he had used up his switch already having played for NI at under 21 and switching to us. Hopefully it doesn't come to this but we did see Stephen Mallon a couple of years ago say he didn't grow up dreaming of playing for NI but didn't think he was going to get the ROI cap he dreamt of so was settling for NI.
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Badgersboys9
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That's a bit creepy to be honest Eoin. Also, it's not as if there's been loads of Irish fellas playing for the North. The few who has accepted a senior cap in the past would not of been close to getting into the Irish set up. Just hasn't been being producing many players with the required standard, nothing to do with choosing NI over Ireland.
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Green Cockade
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Trying to make sense of that last paragraph. Anyone playing for NI is normally Irish, or a granny ruler, even if they have British passports. There’s been the odd exception like Maik Taylor who had nothing to do with Ireland, north or south. One player springs to mind-Alex Bruce, an Engishman-who got a couple of senior caps for both. There’s been various switchers over the years who have been motivated by career considerations rather than patriotism, these things happen. Re Michael Forbes at West Ham, I think he’s a centre half so playing in a position where getting a NI cap would look a less challenging proposition. I am hoping that the decisions of Sean Moore and recently Mark Sykes will help motivate other talented young players from the north to follow in the footsteps of Duffy, McClean, Wilson, Gibson, etc.
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Eoink21
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Published here. I was just trying to get a steer as to whether he had a GAA background or something but nothing in there. You don't think there have been many Irish fellas playing for the North? Or just none of the standard that would be good enough for Ireland, underage and senior? I think GC is right in that regard. There is pragmatism at play. Even among underage set ups Daithi McCallion (am I allowed to say who his mother is i.e. an SF politician) is with NI. I have no idea if he is good enough for ROI but I can't imagine NI is his first choice. Edited by Eoink21 - 07 Feb 2023 at 7:42pm |
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