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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Not sure if it's been mentioned anywhere but Sinclair Armstrong is at QPR now: https://www.qpr.co.uk/news/under-18s-news/sinclair-armstrong-joins-under-18s-231020/
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Gavin Kilkenny an unused sub for Bournemouth in a 5-0 win. 16 year old brought off the bench ahead of him. It's pretty clear his prospects are limited there. Hopefully he can get a loan move in January. He turns 21 soon....


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 he should just retire , it is clear i think
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Zack Elbouzedi didn't get on for Lincoln despite his heroics midweek. Sean Roughan hasn't started a game in six weeks, either.
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Bohemians have rejected a bid from Huddersfield for Danny Grant.
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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Gavin Kilkenny an unused sub for Bournemouth in a 5-0 win. 16 year old brought off the bench ahead of him. It's pretty clear his prospects are limited there. Hopefully he can get a loan move in January. He turns 21 soon....

I agree he should be looking for first team football now, he's a slight lad and hasnt bulked up like others his age. He is getting selected for the bench more and more so definite progress made

Wouldn't read into a 3 minute cameo from a 16 year old too much. Bournemouth look a good prospect for promotion i think a loan move for kilkenny would be a good shout.
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All in all its been another poor weekend for a lot of irish prospects 

Parrott - another game without sight of goal.
Masterson - stuck to the bench 
Kilkenny and Travers - again bench players.

Positives 
Dara oshea, knight and Nathan Collins. 

Also Southampton players will Ferry and smallbone playing for the u23s. Ferry getting 2 assists and smallbone coming back from a thigh injury 



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Originally posted by Hotlips_Hoolahan Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:

Bohemians have rejected a bid from Huddersfield for Danny Grant.

How much? 5 grand take it or leave it deal?
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

All in all its been another poor weekend for a lot of irish prospects 

Parrott - another game without sight of goal.
Masterson - stuck to the bench 
Kilkenny and Travers - again bench players.

Positives 
Dara oshea, knight and Nathan Collins. 

Also Southampton players will Ferry and smallbone playing for the u23s. Ferry getting 2 assists and smallbone coming back from a thigh injury 


Knight and Collins starting to do it week after week now, you just take it for granted after a while. O'Shea not being selected as consistently but playing at a higher level obviously.

Mark McGuinness another young Irish player having a tough time of it, getting a lot of stick from the Ipswich support these days.

Hopefully Smallbone can get back into the Southampton first team soon. Would have more hope for him there than I would for Obafemi.

Joshua Kayode doing really well for Carlisle. Playing in League 2 so not a high standard but doing well and he's underage for the Under 21s next year as well. Has probably moved ahead of Ryan Cassidy who can't get a game for Accrington Stanley.

Jake Doyle Hayes doing really well in Scotland also, the standout player in a St Mirren team with a lot of Irish players in it. He's only on a 1 year contract so will probably move next summer. Hibs tend to sign any half decent player that St Mirren have so that might be his next destination or he might go back to England. Looks too good a player to be at St Mirren anyway.
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Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

All in all its been another poor weekend for a lot of irish prospects 

Parrott - another game without sight of goal.
Masterson - stuck to the bench 
Kilkenny and Travers - again bench players.

Positives 
Dara oshea, knight and Nathan Collins. 

Also Southampton players will Ferry and smallbone playing for the u23s. Ferry getting 2 assists and smallbone coming back from a thigh injury 


In September I was hopeful and optimistic that this would be a big year for our young players but it really hasn't been so far, although plenty of time for things to change. For different reasons, Parrott, Idah, Obafemi, Molumby, Connell, Smallbone and I'm sure others haven't had the impact we would have hoped for yet.

As you said yourself, some positives with the likes of O'Shea, Collins, Kelleher but I'm not as optimistic about the future of the national team as I was a few months ago, bearing in mind the start Kenny has had also. 
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Yeah, still feel that it'll be 2 years before the ireland team see an upside from the potential at underage.

Cant help being impatient though.
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Originally posted by CillDara CillDara wrote:

Originally posted by Left foot Left foot wrote:

All in all its been another poor weekend for a lot of irish prospects 

Parrott - another game without sight of goal.
Masterson - stuck to the bench 
Kilkenny and Travers - again bench players.

Positives 
Dara oshea, knight and Nathan Collins. 

Also Southampton players will Ferry and smallbone playing for the u23s. Ferry getting 2 assists and smallbone coming back from a thigh injury 


In September I was hopeful and optimistic that this would be a big year for our young players but it really hasn't been so far, although plenty of time for things to change. For different reasons, Parrott, Idah, Obafemi, Molumby, Connell, Smallbone and I'm sure others haven't had the impact we would have hoped for yet.

As you said yourself, some positives with the likes of O'Shea, Collins, Kelleher but I'm not as optimistic about the future of the national team as I was a few months ago, bearing in mind the start Kenny has had also. 
 

Travers Kilkenny Coventry so many of them not playing games/men’s football and they at a really important age in their careers to be getting rolling. 

Of all the above Luca Connell stands out even if he does play men’s football next year at 20 years of age like his first season playing men’s football again starting from scratch.

Bazunu Stokes Sean Roughan (only turned 17) both at Lincoln all getting loads of game time Elbouzedi as well played really well during the week. As for Cassidy played 45 minutes yesterday and has played EFL games so he’s not completely in the cold/struggling for game time. Jack Taylor too an obvious stand out.

We have plenty positives for sure. The notion they were all going to take things by storm was far fetched. 

I often say as a Man Utd fan where I feel the club throws in young players too deep too soon to their first team instead of loaning them out to develop it takes 3 full seasons if not 4 of regular men’s football before you can even begin to make an accurate judgement on a players ceiling. 

For a lot of the above it’s their first year so realistically your talking 2 if not 3 more years before we get a real idea of where that group of young players are going individually and collectively. 


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We have a good few lads on the books of Spanish teams this year, I wonder will we have more in the next few years, with the new rule that Irish lads cant sign for British teams until there 18 coming in with Brexit.

JJ Finn - Getafe 
Ryan Nolan - Getafe
Kevin Toner - La nucia 
Sean Flaherty - Tenerife
Caden McLoughlin - Villareal
Marcus Rowley - Malaga (playing for there reserve's Atletico Malagueno)

*Anselmo McNulty (Was with Betis last year now with Wolfsburg)
*Ryan Johansen - Seville (Not sure if still eligible)


Id imagine we will, the weather is great, and the fact English is spoken a good  bit in parts of Spain and big Irish community also over there. Suprised there hasnt been more tbh.



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Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

We have a good few lads on the books of Spanish teams this year, I wonder will we have more in the next few years, with the new rule that Irish lads cant sign for British teams until there 18 coming in with Brexit.

JJ Finn - Getafe 
Ryan Nolan - Getafe
Kevin Toner - La nucia 
Sean Flaherty - Tenerife
Caden McLoughlin - Villareal
Marcus Rowley - Malaga (playing for there reserve's Atletico Malagueno)

Anselmo McNulty (Was with Betis last year now with Wolfsburg




Hopefully! I’d not heard of Sean Flaherty before. Do you know much about him?
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McNulty is probably the most likely of those mentioned above to really crack it. Still a youngster but something of a prodigy who is being monitored by many major clubs. Level headed kid too by all accounts from a good family background.
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Originally posted by JoxerDaly JoxerDaly wrote:

We have a good few lads on the books of Spanish teams this year, I wonder will we have more in the next few years, with the new rule that Irish lads cant sign for British teams until there 18 coming in with Brexit.

JJ Finn - Getafe 
Ryan Nolan - Getafe
Kevin Toner - La nucia 
Sean Flaherty - Tenerife
Caden McLoughlin - Villareal
Marcus Rowley - Malaga (playing for there reserve's Atletico Malagueno)

Anselmo McNulty (Was with Betis last year now with Wolfsburg




Hopefully! I’d not heard of Sean Flaherty before. Do you know much about him?


19 yo midfielder, as far as I know grew up in Tenerife. 
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Brandon Kavanagh to train with Crystal Palace, Killian Cahill linked with a move to Brighton and Thomas Oluwa also interesting teams in the UK.

Daniel Mandroiu has signed for Shamrock Rovers, which is pretty disappointing considering he was linked with a move to Twente a few months ago.


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mandroiu to replace byrne i think, makes sense for all and good environment for him to kick on
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