How Do We Keep Up With Our International Rivals?

State involvement in certain key industries and killing the infirm and old. How very Germany c 1936.

roverstillidie wrote: Just saying like wrote: If you can't see the difference between state funding for the horse industry and state funding for football then I suggest you go back to counting LOI football matches where 1+1 apparently equals 4 I do get the difference you jackass.   My point is that it is backwards. The state should not fund profitible but politically powerful private industry over funding a sports infrastructure. You are arguing this on the basis it should be public policy to divert funds from the community to the rich and try and kill off people as early as possible.

So you obviously think the state should not give funds to Bord Failte to promote our profitable tourism business or to Bord Bia to promote our very profitable agri-food industry and give it to the FAI instead.  Only one jackass on this thread and it's not me.  Just stop digging for fcuk sake and move on.

roverstillidie wrote: So in about 120 years we lost one established pro to the Gardai/Gah nexus and one promising player who drifted back into rugby. Hardly scientific proof.   I would love to blame the agrisports for Paul Greene, but it is way to simplified.

First off, congrats to Ybig on their 9th anniversary, which is some feat for any forum website which invariably ends up canned after a few months. I only discovered the site by chance a couple of years ago and it offers a great sounding-board for the opinions of Irish soccer fans.

Given there are more threads on this site than a textile factory in Bangladesh, it`s hard to keep up with the various comment. I began this thread with a pointed and what I thought was a pertinent question: how do we keep up with our international rivals? (i.e., nations across Europe are currently developing state-of-the-art coaching academies for their youth, while we`re dithering and hoping "ah sure, if we send enough young lads over to England we`ll end up with a great team").

My thread soon went south, with the usual suspects continuing their spats or squabbles decidedly off-thread. I was trying to address the issue of future development for our international soccer team and MayoMark made an interesting contribution. As for RTID, Roger Milla, etc, arguing about the merits or otherwise of the Irish Bloodstock industry to the Irish economy, do these guys not grasp the basic characteristics of a thread - that you stay within topic and dont wander off to nitpick with other posters? It`s otherwise known as online etiquette...

 

This is the 4th time I've seen Chile this year and they have looked so efficient everytime. Backed them to reach the semi and it's not a bad bet!

But I remembernot so long ago Chile were very average. I remember they beat us at landsdowme about 10 years ago and it was a shock.

Chile are not the only team who have come from the wilderness.

Anyway my point, we need to find out what the hell is going on in these countries and try and emulate it.

t_rAndy wrote: This is the 4th time I've seen Chile this year and they have looked so efficient everytime. Backed them to reach the semi and it's not a bad bet! But I remembernot so long ago Chile were very average. I remember they beat us at landsdowme about 10 years ago and it was a shock. Chile are not the only team who have come from the wilderness. Anyway my point, we need to find out what the hell is going on in these countries and try and emulate it.

Edited by Green Devil - 18 Jun 2014 at 10:16pm

Zamorano and Salas were long before Bielsa.

Edited by Gary McKay - 18 Jun 2014 at 10:34pm

Gary McKay wrote: Zamorano and Salas were long before Bielsa.

But Bielsa is what happened in the 10 years that trandy was talking about. He's the one that gave this group of players an identity and style that suits their abilities perfectly.

1st the fai need to invest in underage and forget about paying the aviva debt off by 2020
2nd get more coaches into national schools
3rd merge the SFAI, Junior leagues, FAIS etc under direct FAI control, to prevent them operating as separate entities, producing a unified body promoting soccer in this country.
4th Try to change the irish mindset from national sports, to international sports. As a GAA player I enjoy the game and enjoy when waterford do well, but I love when my country beats another on the international stage a whole lot more,
5th The CEO needs to get out of his bubble, that he thinks our underage system, is producing enough talent up to standard, for our international team. Listen to your grass roots, rather than your well paid advisors, and ERSI reports that allows him quote the areas that look good.

Edited by trapscat - 19 Jun 2014 at 10:22am