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For John, Hendrick and Smallbone can do little wrong, Molumby can do little right.
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kevin100
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Browne really should have kicked on after the 17/18 or 18/19 season to the next level so to speak. That he didn’t good luck to him don’t know his circumstances but he has stagnated a touch in recent years as a result at Preston. He has started this season brilliantly and agreed I thought he did well against France in particular himself helped by Collins did a proper number on Mbappe. Would be unreal to see Preston continue their promotion push.
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Artie Ziff
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If ever a post summed up how sh*te we are it's this. Whoope-dooooo we've a mid week player of the week in a 2nd tier league.
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Helpful.
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I wouldn't be a massive fan of Browne but he does pop up with a goal here and there and in fairness was impressive in last two game and a few other games. Due to our complete lack of midfield quality, he is a good squad option at minute.
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John Nice
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Never mentioned Hendrick in the context of this discussion, but yes I regularly defend him in light of the nonsense abuse he has to deal with on here, but in particular on social media. He remains a first team Championship player and therefore remains a realistic squad option in a position where we are light on options. I havent advocated for his selection ahead of Molumby. Smallbone's ceiling is much higher than Molumby's in my opinion, but regardless, he is a different type of midfielder. Much of my problem with Molumby is not so much him, but the balance of a midfield that contains him, Cullen and Knight. There's plenty of legs there, but very little creativity. I'd prefer a midfield 3 that comprised only 2 of them with a Smallbone, Azaz or even a Browne (on current form). Molumby is good cover for Cullen and/or Knight.
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Knight is creative when he's played in a role that allows him to be creative. Being used as a workhorse by Derby has led to a lot of people (like John here) mistakenly believing that he isn't. In Ireland's first choice midfield Cullen is the sitter who can start a play with some useful passing, Molumby is your box to box workhorse and Knight can offer creativity as well as putting in a shift as a second workhorse off the ball. Smallbone is then maybe the first pick off the bench and is a good option to have as he can do all three roles - a sitter, a workhorse or a creative type. He doesn't do any of the three roles as well as the starter in that position though, so he usually doesn't make the starting team. Browne is also a useful option and is in good form. Look, you can argue about the overall quality of our midfield and be justified in doing so. The five midfielders listed above have only played about 25 top flight games between them and we are often outplayed by other teams with better midfielders. But the balance of the midfield is actually fine and Molumby is in there on merit.
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John Nice
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I disagree! I dont like the balance between Cullen, Molumby and Knight at all and I dont mistakenly think anything about Knight, but thanks for the condescension. Knight can certainly affect games positively, much more so than Molumby and I like Knight, but I still feel he doesnt contribute as much as he might in the attacking third, and ultimately he is a runner, similar to Molumby, but pacier, more positive and better disciplined - Ultimately, none of the three are good at advancing the ball through the lines consistently. As a result, the ball gets played into our midfield passed around laterally and ultimately back to our defenders or to the opposition. We need a midfielder who can link midfield and attack, Smallbone is a player who can do that (whether he is good enough is another question, but he is the right type). It is not Knight's game and it is certainly not either Molumby or Cullen's. If we had very good wing backs who could carry the ball forward at pace that would help, but we dont (bar a fully match fit Doherty which may never happen again).
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The tapping the ball back and over in midfield is a tactical decision though. It's trying to play a game that doesn't suit our players. No combination of midfielders we have available to us will make that approach work. When we hammered Scotland last year in Kenny's only genuinely good performance/result we played Cullen/Molumby/Knight but played a bit more direct and got the best out of them as a unit. I think it probably happened because of the derby nature of the game rather than any tactical decision on the day, but the template was there for all to see and to be followed afterwards, but it wasn't. Here's Knight just this week moving the ball forward in a team that encourages him to do it. In the Ireland setup that's probably classed as a long ball and he's likely being told to keep it short, back infield to Molumby or Cullen is where that would be going. Which is part of the reason why we are where we are.
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John Nice
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As I said I'm well aware of what Knight is capable of, and yes that was a good pass. Passing through the lines is not his game though. The last para is rubbish btw, Kenny doesnt tell players not to try that pass, it was on, Sykes has got half the pitch free in front of him to run into ffs. It still doesnt make Knight the type of midfielder who tries to progress the ball through midfield with sharp passing, that is not his game, I dont want it to be his game, I'm not criticising him for it, I'm happy to have a midfielder with his qualities, I just dont want another one with similar (albeit more limited) qualities beside him. In any case, I'm looking toward the future and hopefully an evolution towards a 4-3-3. I'm happy with Cullen as the 6, the question then is who are the two 8s. For me Knight is one, but I dont want Molumby as the other, I just think it's too one dimensional, I'd prefer Smallbone as the other 8, even Browne. Likewise, if we look to play a 4-2-3-1 I'd prefer to see Cullen and Knight as the 2 with Molumby as back up and Moran/Smallbone/Azaz as the 10. If we stick with 5 at the back, then having Cullen, Molumby and Knight as the 3 in front of the 5 really gives the team a very defensive, uncreative look. We have actually used 4 in a box midfield ahead of the 5 in this campaign vs France /Holland with Molumby and Cullen at the base and Ogbene and Knight at the top. This was actually a reasonable tactical approach for those particular games but ultimately very limiting. |
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Indeed, sad and all as it may be (and tbf there were a full round of Championship fixtures this midweek), it is noteworthy when we have a midfielder perform to this level. I was merely pointing out the achievement such as it is.
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Some goal from Browne there. Puts Preston 1 up against Blackburn
Edited by doherty - 10 Nov 2023 at 8:38pm |
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Against the run of play, Alan Browne with a sublime first touch, and a superb finish. What a goal!
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doherty
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Put a green shirt on him and he'd have taken out the nearest plane with the same shot!!
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And Moran hits the crossbar with a whopper. Almost topped Browne there
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