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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

What if you turn up, you have 6 tickets on your account and tell them my mates are in the pub and I have paid for the tickets in my name; the FAI aren't not going to give you tickets. They'd be reneging on an implied contract.

The other thing is that there can be sweet f**k all travelling to this fixture on other people's tickets.

I just don't see it being workable in the intended (well intended I may add) manner you have in mind. 

If the FAI are going to implement this, they need to announce it prior to taking money for the tickets as a condition of sale, not at the drop of a hat when they feel like it. Then nobody will have any complaints.
 
Pretty sure you have to name who the tickets are for otherwise how do they know they are entitled to them   - are they there for a piss up or for a match  ? (nothing wrong with both I might add). Turn up show ID get ticket back to pub
 
I know personally of at least 5 very regular travellers (am sure there are others) who would of been entitled to  tickets but aren't travelling for a variety of reasons and hadn't intended to travel . I would hate to think somebody could maybe use their record to get tickets and dish them out as they saw fit  , This is what I am trying to combat .
 
surely nothing wrong in that ?. It wouldn't be feasible for say another Cardiff or Copenhagen but given this is the worst allocation since 2011 and only 500 tickets  I believe its worth the effort. Hopefully the FAI do too, I believe some of the SC are in agreement but I obviously cant speak for them


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There's one other problem, though. In terms of tickets that aren't collected, sure, they go from that person's record - but they then end up in the hands of equally "undeserving" people, the people who are first in the queue in Gibraltar. They may be top of the allocation list, but equally they could have no away history at all. 100% collection there doesn't result in the people who should have got tickets getting tickets - the FAI aren't going to be in a position to double check people's records when handing out uncollected tickets half an hour before kick off.

I know it could have a discouraging effect on people applying for tickets if they aren't going to travel, if they know two things: 1) the ticket isn't going to count for their record and 2) they know that the ticket is going to be reallocated. Then, there's no incentive to apply for and pay for a ticket. However, unless you know that in advance, it isn't going to make any difference. I don't see that it makes any difference for Gibraltar at this stage, when the application process is long closed.

As a general rule, in future, it could be worth having 100% pick up for places with allocations of less than 1,000, and we all basically agree on that, or something like it. However, for Gibraltar at this stage, I'm not sure what problem it actually solves. It doesn't result in people who actually deserved tickets getting them, that's for sure. If the system had been in place before this game, and publicly known, I'd agree, but I don't see what it does at this stage.

There is one thing it does, and that is make sure that as many of those who travel get in. There's a chance that there will be people in Gib with spare tickets and people who travel who don't have tickets - collection there does, I suppose, increase the number of fans who actually get in, if there are uncollected tickets & redistribution. If everyone picks up their own tickets, then there will be no "spares" aside from the uncollected ones. That is a viable reason to do it.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

There's one other problem, though. In terms of tickets that aren't collected, sure, they go from that person's record - but they then end up in the hands of equally "undeserving" people, the people who are first in the queue in Gibraltar. They may be top of the allocation list, but equally they could have no away history at all. 100% collection there doesn't result in the people who should have got tickets getting tickets - the FAI aren't going to be in a position to double check people's records when handing out uncollected tickets half an hour before kick off.
 
If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
 
Tickets are only distributed 5 mins after KO - as per the minutes of the meeting with the FAI
 
Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

As a general rule, in future, it could be worth having 100% pick up for places with allocations of less than 1,000, and we all basically agree on that, or something like it. However, for Gibraltar at this stage, I'm not sure what problem it actually solves. It doesn't result in people who actually deserved tickets getting them, that's for sure. If the system had been in place before this game, and publicly known, I'd agree, but I don't see what it does at this stage.
Too cumbersome 10% check should suffice to discourage
 
Tightest allocation in 8 years , combatting people piggy backing other peoples records
 
 
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I think 5 mins after kick off is too late to be honest. 

Half an hour before kick off I think is fair
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Originally posted by belt belt wrote:

I think 5 mins after kick off is too late to be honest. 

Half an hour before kick off I think is fair


I'd agree, always something which annoys me at home games is people who arrive 5-10 minutes into the game just because they either wanted another pint or couldn't be bothered to show up early to create an atmosphere
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Unfair on the staff too, they should be allowed time to get in and see the match as well. 
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Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
Well, if you're queueing 40 minutes before kick off, then I'm queueing 50 minutes before, then some other lad is going for an hour beforehand, etc.  What will happen is that you'll have a (couple of?) hundred people queueing hours before KO for tickets that might not even exist.  That's a system that's asking for trouble.
 
Better idea is for people to give their name and number on the day, and tell them to stay within 15 minutes travel of the ground.  Closer to KO, invite back a small number for the potential spares.  Ideally this would be according to their past record, random if not possible.
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Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
Well, if you're queueing 40 minutes before kick off, then I'm queueing 50 minutes before, then some other lad is going for an hour beforehand, etc.  What will happen is that you'll have a (couple of?) hundred people queueing hours before KO for tickets that might not even exist.  That's a system that's asking for trouble.
 
Better idea is for people to give their name and number on the day, and tell them to stay within 15 minutes travel of the ground.  Closer to KO, invite back a small number for the potential spares.  Ideally this would be according to their past record, random if not possible.


Spares should be given to supporters clubs. Fairest way to get them to deserving fans
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Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
Well, if you're queueing 40 minutes before kick off, then I'm queueing 50 minutes before, then some other lad is going for an hour beforehand, etc.  What will happen is that you'll have a (couple of?) hundred people queueing hours before KO for tickets that might not even exist.  That's a system that's asking for trouble.
 
Better idea is for people to give their name and number on the day, and tell them to stay within 15 minutes travel of the ground.  Closer to KO, invite back a small number for the potential spares.  Ideally this would be according to their past record, random if not possible.


f**k YOU GUYS I'M LEAVING FOR GIBRALTAR NOW AND CAMPING OUTSIDE THE GROUND!!!
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Originally posted by Pipkin Pipkin wrote:

Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Originally posted by irelandfan irelandfan wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

Think all can agree that 100% pick up in Gibralter in person is the way to go

I think pick up should be the way forward but it will be more beneficial for the likes of Serbia,Moldova and Georgia etc nobody will hoard for this game and if they did it would be no benefit to there record as its Oversubscribed anyway but its the right way forward. 


Yeah, I don't see the reason to have to pick up for games like Gibraltar. The only reason is to make sure every ticket is used; if tickets are not collected before 5pm (ko 6pm remember), then the FAI can distribute them to people who are there without tickets.

Agreed. It would be a pain in the bollix for fans having to go to the team hotel at a set time to collect tickets and be subjected to a strip search by the Head of security when there is likely to be no ticket harvesters anyway as near all regulars will be there. Secondly, it’s not a requirement for SCs so it would actually encourage people to join. And thirdly, there is no way in hell you’ll get every last person down there. A fella will be sent down to collect for others and who is anyone to tell them they can’t take a ticket they have already paid for? 

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Originally posted by Bogumit Bogumit wrote:

Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
Well, if you're queueing 40 minutes before kick off, then I'm queueing 50 minutes before, then some other lad is going for an hour beforehand, etc.  What will happen is that you'll have a (couple of?) hundred people queueing hours before KO for tickets that might not even exist.  That's a system that's asking for trouble.
 
Better idea is for people to give their name and number on the day, and tell them to stay within 15 minutes travel of the ground.  Closer to KO, invite back a small number for the potential spares.  Ideally this would be according to their past record, random if not possible.


Spares should be given to supporters clubs. Fairest way to get them to deserving fans
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Originally posted by brendy_éire brendy_éire wrote:

Originally posted by Newryrep Newryrep wrote:

If you queued for say 40min at the ground in the offchance of getting a ticket I would say you 'deserved' a ticket
Well, if you're queueing 40 minutes before kick off, then I'm queueing 50 minutes before, then some other lad is going for an hour beforehand, etc.  What will happen is that you'll have a (couple of?) hundred people queueing hours before KO for tickets that might not even exist.  That's a system that's asking for trouble.
 
Better idea is for people to give their name and number on the day, and tell them to stay within 15 minutes travel of the ground.  Closer to KO, invite back a small number for the potential spares.  Ideally this would be according to their past record, random if not possible.
this stemmed from an incident in Copenhagen where some posters were promised any uncollected tickets by the booth staff (likely in good faith) but just before KO another FAI official arrived and took them all
 
If they weren't going to be getting them they could of tried  elsewhere and they had hung around the booth waiting for them .
 
I dunno the fairest way it was a suggestion  - with about 15mis to go you would have a fair idea if you were gonna have a chance
 
If there 20 in the queue and only 5 left to collect the last 15 might as well clear off
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f**k sake, load of guff. There's a system in place. Beyond that, if you want a bloody ticket badly enough you will find a way to get one.

If you care enough, you'll get a ticket one way or another.

I mean that. Where there's a will there's a ticket.


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Some sh*te spouted out on this thread about tickets. Now for the important things in life what's the craic with nightlife and pub scene? 
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Some sh*te spouted out on this thread about tickets. Now for the important things in life what's the craic with nightlife and pub scene? 

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Fans Game for this ? 
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Fans Game for this ? 

Is there 11 people living in Gibraltar? 
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Originally posted by kevincronin2000 kevincronin2000 wrote:

Some sh*te spouted out on this thread about tickets. Now for the important things in life what's the craic with nightlife and pub scene? 

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