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    Posted: 01 Apr 2014 at 5:28pm
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Not buying the peer pressure angle on this....its down to the fact that nominee plays the game because it involves drink, bravado and doing something for which the drink can be blamed. In our dysfunctional little country any behaviour as a consequence of drink is permissable, tolerated, forgiven and becomes an amusing episode.
 
 
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Originally posted by Citizen Citizen wrote:

the game itself is fairly cringe tbh, people necking a can in their kitchen of a Tuesday and making a video of it. 


I agree on a Tuesday, WTF is the world coming to, on a Tuesday FFS :-D
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the game itself is fairly cringe tbh, people necking a can in their kitchen of a Tuesday and making a video of it. 
 
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Originally posted by Citizen Citizen wrote:

the game itself is fairly cringe tbh, people necking a can in their kitchen of a Tuesday and making a video of it. 

Couldnt agree more.

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the game itself is fairly cringe tbh, people necking a can in their kitchen of a Tuesday and making a video of it. 
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Originally posted by sham157 sham157 wrote:


Rules in situations like this are generally pointless anyway Ger, sure we cant as a people obey rules as it is. They are there to be broken, thats the mindset. People lie like fook on everything from mortgage apps to buying car/home insurance for example, all of which is important stuff. It's always grand until something goes wrong, then chickens begin the oul roosting process, so to suggest that rules in an online, social media powered drinking game would make one iota of difference is naive to say the least.
 
I don't think anybody can dispute that the more people doing something like necknomination then the more likely there is to be undesireable outcomes, it's a numbers games really. Your last line about the idea of the game is right, but what led to people doing stupid things is stupidity, nothing else.
 
I wasnt nominated either before or after the deaths occurred. If I had of been, I'd have probably downed my beer and re nomintated. If I had of been nominated to down stupid stuff and do something stupid/dangerous, what little common sense I have would kick in and I'd refuse. That's not being stupid enough. Would it be the games fault if I refused to do something stupid or would it be well done me for not doing it? I'm going to plump for the well done me one as I'm sure you would agree. In that case if the game cannot be blamed for me being sensible, how can it be blamed i f I chose the stupid option?? 


You are a bit older and mature (cough cough) than the yoof of today.
Peer pressure via social media can be a big problem. Thats what this game thrived on.
I woukd ask the question. Would an 18 year old attempt to down a bottle of vodka in one go in normal circumstances? Or coukd they, under the watchful eyes of their peers on Facebook, gain the courage and do it. To outdo others as the lad in England is reported to have said.

Ps. .I never said the game is to blame. I said its is a combination of things.
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If you're trying to blame necknomination for the deaths then you might as well accuse the internet of killing them, or try to ban peer presure. Yes pleople died as a result of doing something thick after being dared to down to a pint but unfortunately the term death from misadventure is too common these days and will happen with or without internet games.

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remember that 'game' alright, done it a few times. Think it was 10 deep rapid breaths stand against something solid and one of yer mates presses against your chest and you pass out. Fcukers thoigh I was messing doing it and let me drop to the floor, woke up with a killer sore head from itLOL stupid looking back alright, but again lucky enough to survive. no internet those days or fb either, only one thing for it, ban school and breathing. Breathing is the real culprit here
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There is always going to be peer pressure growing up and there is always going to be pressures to do things from mates etc.  Its one of lifes learning skills that you have the cop on to no do things that have a high risk factor and to be able also to spot the high risk factor.  

Some people getaway with doing the stupid things and live to tell the tail and learn later or others are not so fortunate and end up dying by doing stupid things.  

These things have been in many forms over the years. The only difference now is that the games spread quicker due to social media.  But when I was in school there was a stupid game where people held their breath and were then slapped on their chest causing them to faint.  I think there was deaths at the time in parts of the country due to this craze.  These things spread throughout Ireland years ago but were just slower moving.  


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Rules in situations like this are generally pointless anyway Ger, sure we cant as a people obey rules as it is. They are there to be broken, thats the mindset. People lie like fook on everything from mortgage apps to buying car/home insurance for example, all of which is important stuff. It's always grand until something goes wrong, then chickens begin the oul roosting process, so to suggest that rules in an online, social media powered drinking game would make one iota of difference is naive to say the least.
 
I don't think anybody can dispute that the more people doing something like necknomination then the more likely there is to be undesireable outcomes, it's a numbers games really. Your last line about the idea of the game is right, but what led to people doing stupid things is stupidity, nothing else.
 
I wasnt nominated either before or after the deaths occurred. If I had of been, I'd have probably downed my beer and re nomintated. If I had of been nominated to down stupid stuff and do something stupid/dangerous, what little common sense I have would kick in and I'd refuse. That's not being stupid enough. Would it be the games fault if I refused to do something stupid or would it be well done me for not doing it? I'm going to plump for the well done me one as I'm sure you would agree. In that case if the game cannot be blamed for me being sensible, how can it be blamed i f I chose the stupid option?? 
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You bottom line about fb is true. And cadra hoop I think you have missed the point.

The difference between your normal drinking game with the lads and neknimination is that neknimination is a Facebook chain game. It uses Facebook as the platform to get the game to a wider audience. Thats the whole idea. Get as many people downing drinks as possible.
A well and good when its a pint. But with no rules it grew.

I think you can agree that the more people that do stupid things; tge higher the chance of deaths etc
The idea of neknimination was to get as many people downing a drink, which led to as many people as possible doing stupid things
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Originally posted by Cabra Hoop Cabra Hoop wrote:

Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

You don't believe that awareness should be created to orevent further tragedy?
 
There are men and women up and down this country who will die today because of drink related problems - heart disease, cirrhosis etc. and all of them would have known the danger drink causes.
 
Awareness wont prevent further tragedy. This will be all forgotten about in a few weeks and it'll be replaced by some other drinking game.
 
I was in a pub with the missus not so long ago, sitting at the bar. Two slips of girls (the oldest was about 17 and they were both about 7 stone) ordered double vodkas and a bottle of West Coast Cooler each. They put the whole lot in a pint glass and drink it in about five minutes. I said something like "Jesus, girls you'll be pissed in no time". To which the younger one replied "Great isnt it". These two were fully aware of what they were doing and they embraced it.
 
 
 


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In the grand scheme of things Ger, what I'm saying is that the existence of this game is of little or no consequence. Loads of games go too far resulting in far from ideal outcomes, the ultimate being people dying of course. If any of the people who died here or in other countries or those who found themselves in hospital as a result were willing to do what they did because somebody on the internet said so, then I'd bet my bottom euro, they have done similar before and would do it again if their antics didnt have the terrible outcome they did. Now maybe these were just once off incidents for those who died and they paid they ultimate price, but we all know people who do stupid things, and of course these people have to start off somehwere, but usually once they get the first piece of stupidity out of the way, theres more to follow untilnhopefully they cop themselves on. I used to kncok back vodka at a fair rate in my mid to late teens, thought I was the business downing the guts of a 70cl bottle, a real clever clogs. Luckily, I lived to tell the tale and grew out of that kind of thing, and this was before FB or any other 'excuses' came along.   

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Sham are you saying the game had NOTHING at all to do with deaths?
Yes I agree there will always be idiots doing idiotic things but do you not think that this was a harmless game that went too far by many?
It is not a regulated game with rules and boundaries. It is anything goes and gives people a platform to portray their idiotic behaviour.

If this game was never invented those lads would be alive today.
So to say tbe game had nothing to do with it is wrong Imo.
Stupidly may have played a bigger role, but the game also played a part



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Originally posted by The GerK The GerK wrote:

You don't believe that awareness should be created to orevent further tragedy?
 
There are men and women up and down this country who will die today because of drink related problems - heart disease, cirrhosis etc. and all of them would have known the danger drink causes.
 
Awareness wont prevent further tragedy. This will be all forgotten about in a few weeks and it'll be replaced by some other drinking game.
 
I was in a pub with the missus not so long ago, sitting at the bar. Two slips of girls (the oldest was about 17 and they were both about 7 stone) ordered double vodkas and a bottle of West Coast Cooler each. They put the whole lot in a pint glass and drink it in about five minutes. I said something like "Jesus, girls you'll be pissed in no time". To which the younger one replied "Great isnt it". These two were fully aware of what they were doing and they embraced it.
 
 
 
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