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t_rAndy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 12:54pm |
I was hoping Aisling got plenty of shots in on the pig during her self defense that he needed treatment.
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t_rAndy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 1:29pm |
The house of horror perpetrators have been sentenced. Absolutely disgusting they must be dirty filthy things. Thankfully the children were freed but what a horrible life they have had to live with.
The father and uncles of three children who were repeatedly raped and sexually assaulted by family members have each been jailed for 15 years.Their 57-year-old father who raped and sexually abused three of his children and neglected all five of them has been sentenced to a total of 15 years in prison. The court also imposed sentences of four and five years for sexual assault and neglect to be served at the same time. His wife, the children's 34-year-old mother, has been sentenced to nine years for the sexual exploitation of some of her children. The judge also imposed sentences of five and four years for sexual assault and neglect. The sentences will all be served concurrently. The children's aunt was sentenced to three years for sexual assault.
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Baldrick
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 1:56pm |
Ryan Giggs trial put back until August now.
Can’t see him ever managing Wales again. I see Keane and Neville are still pally him with him. Innocent until proven guilty of course but doesn’t look good for him.
Edited by Baldrick - 18 Jan 2022 at 1:58pm
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horsebox
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 1:57pm |
We must be world leaders at producing some of the most vilest sexual monsters. Hardly a day passes when some one is up in court on some horrific sexual assault.
This one popped up yesterday.
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It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to
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colemanY2K
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 2:19pm |
horsebox wrote:
We must be world leaders at producing some of the most vilest sexual monsters. Hardly a day passes when some one is up in court on some horrific sexual assault.
This one popped up yesterday.
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7 years, be out in 5. The system is far too lenient when it comes to sentencing.
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"One of the dominant facts in English life during the past three quarters of a century has been the decay of ability in the ruling class." Orwell, 1942.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 2:27pm |
Baldrick wrote:
Ryan Giggs trial put back until August now.
Can’t see him ever managing Wales again. I see Keane and Neville are still pally him with him. Innocent until proven guilty of course but doesn’t look good for him.
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I remember reading about Roy Keane "worrying" women in nightclubs in England before he married.
The description had me in stitches. Can imagine a young Roy corralling them like a dog worrying sheep alright.
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The GerK
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 2:59pm |
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It's the same as anything, the rarer something is, the more coverage it gets. Women don't get murdered by strangers very often, let alone young teachers out for a run. It also hit home more as it feels it could have been anyone.
Middle aged men get killed often enough. Far less people would also feel that could've been them. Likewise the murder of the women on Dublin I mentioned previously. Not saying it's right at all, but it's the way it is. |
Agreed. There are different elements to every murder. There is a huge community aspect here. Young teacher, trad musician, GAA. She is your stereotypical Irish young lady. The way in which she was so callously killed has also generated immense anger. Throw all the emotions together and it's easy to see why her death has generated such widespread sympathy and emotion.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 3:14pm |
t_rAndy wrote:
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After all the crow people had to eat after it turned out that Radu Floricel (who has convictions for assaults on women) wasn't the killer, it turns out the new suspect is also a foreign national.
"Apart from detailed interaction with people well known to him in Ireland, investigations have also involved garda queries to international police agencies. This has been done to determine if the man has a criminal record in other countries where he lived before moving to Ireland." [Irish Independent]
Guess Andy's first instincts were right after all.
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I was only speculating and offering my own observation on what I have perceived to be a skewed weighing of volume of violent crimes reported in media where the perpetrator was foreign in comparison to volume of foreign people in Irish society overall. I wasn't trying to tie it to the specific case as such and the perpetrator was far more likely to be Irish as I admitted as we are the vast majority of the population). People couldn't separate my observational point from this particular case though.
But anyway, I believe in the process of a criminal investigation and refraining from naming and posting pictures of potential suspects. It was wrong for people to hang the first suspect out to dry and similarly it's the same for the new suspect. Let the process run it's course, it sounds like they have their guy and I'm sure the book will be thrown at him and he is in for a life of hell from here on out. |
This is not true at all Andy. Of the 38 murderers in 2021, 4 foreign nationals were charged - Source: Michael O'Toole
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 3:40pm |
colemanY2K wrote:
horsebox wrote:
We must be world leaders at producing some of the most vilest sexual monsters. Hardly a day passes when some one is up in court on some horrific sexual assault.
This one popped up yesterday.
| 7 years, be out in 5. The system is far too lenient when it comes to sentencing. |
Yeah but men are the mains ones at fault for not having a word with your family and mates, not the criminal justice system
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 3:56pm |
That fella has been formally arrested on suspicion of murder
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I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:40pm |
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He self harmed according to the indo hence the need for hospital treatment. |
This, it was in the news.
Worrying when people get their facts from WhatsApp and not newspapers.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:42pm |
The GerK wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
After all the crow people had to eat after it turned out that Radu Floricel (who has convictions for assaults on women) wasn't the killer, it turns out the new suspect is also a foreign national.
"Apart from detailed interaction with people well known to him in Ireland, investigations have also involved garda queries to international police agencies. This has been done to determine if the man has a criminal record in other countries where he lived before moving to Ireland." [Irish Independent]
Guess Andy's first instincts were right after all.
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I was only speculating and offering my own observation on what I have perceived to be a skewed weighing of volume of violent crimes reported in media where the perpetrator was foreign in comparison to volume of foreign people in Irish society overall. I wasn't trying to tie it to the specific case as such and the perpetrator was far more likely to be Irish as I admitted as we are the vast majority of the population). People couldn't separate my observational point from this particular case though.
But anyway, I believe in the process of a criminal investigation and refraining from naming and posting pictures of potential suspects. It was wrong for people to hang the first suspect out to dry and similarly it's the same for the new suspect. Let the process run it's course, it sounds like they have their guy and I'm sure the book will be thrown at him and he is in for a life of hell from here on out. |
This is not true at all Andy. Of the 38 murderers in 2021, 4 foreign nationals were charged - Source: Michael O'Toole |
Good stat that, that's roughly in line with the foreign born population of the country. But sure, people don't want to let facts get in the way of good old fashioned xenophobia.
Article in the Times today about right wing agitators using this to further their goals, it's worrying to see.
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t_rAndy
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:42pm |
The GerK wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
After all the crow people had to eat after it turned out that Radu Floricel (who has convictions for assaults on women) wasn't the killer, it turns out the new suspect is also a foreign national.
"Apart from detailed interaction with people well known to him in Ireland, investigations have also involved garda queries to international police agencies. This has been done to determine if the man has a criminal record in other countries where he lived before moving to Ireland." [Irish Independent]
Guess Andy's first instincts were right after all.
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I was only speculating and offering my own observation on what I have perceived to be a skewed weighing of volume of violent crimes reported in media where the perpetrator was foreign in comparison to volume of foreign people in Irish society overall. I wasn't trying to tie it to the specific case as such and the perpetrator was far more likely to be Irish as I admitted as we are the vast majority of the population). People couldn't separate my observational point from this particular case though.
But anyway, I believe in the process of a criminal investigation and refraining from naming and posting pictures of potential suspects. It was wrong for people to hang the first suspect out to dry and similarly it's the same for the new suspect. Let the process run it's course, it sounds like they have their guy and I'm sure the book will be thrown at him and he is in for a life of hell from here on out. |
This is not true at all Andy. Of the 38 murderers in 2021, 4 foreign nationals were charged - Source: Michael O'Toole |
Yeah I saw. I did always stay if you exclude gangland crime related murders then other violent crime reported in media appear to have a skewed weighting. But I'll accept overall defeat in my point that the volume of murders committed by foreigners appears to be higher than their population within the total. Based on michael o'toole's numbers it's about 10% for both.
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:45pm |
nvidic wrote:
The GerK wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
After all the crow people had to eat after it turned out that Radu Floricel (who has convictions for assaults on women) wasn't the killer, it turns out the new suspect is also a foreign national.
"Apart from detailed interaction with people well known to him in Ireland, investigations have also involved garda queries to international police agencies. This has been done to determine if the man has a criminal record in other countries where he lived before moving to Ireland." [Irish Independent]
Guess Andy's first instincts were right after all.
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I was only speculating and offering my own observation on what I have perceived to be a skewed weighing of volume of violent crimes reported in media where the perpetrator was foreign in comparison to volume of foreign people in Irish society overall. I wasn't trying to tie it to the specific case as such and the perpetrator was far more likely to be Irish as I admitted as we are the vast majority of the population). People couldn't separate my observational point from this particular case though.
But anyway, I believe in the process of a criminal investigation and refraining from naming and posting pictures of potential suspects. It was wrong for people to hang the first suspect out to dry and similarly it's the same for the new suspect. Let the process run it's course, it sounds like they have their guy and I'm sure the book will be thrown at him and he is in for a life of hell from here on out. |
This is not true at all Andy. Of the 38 murderers in 2021, 4 foreign nationals were charged - Source: Michael O'Toole |
Good stat that, that's roughly in line with the foreign born population of the country. But sure, people don't want to let facts get in the way of good old fashioned xenophobia.
Article in the Times today about right wing agitators using this to further their goals, it's worrying to see. |
Bet they are delighted with the news that it was a foreigner
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:45pm |
nvidic wrote:
The GerK wrote:
t_rAndy wrote:
Hotlips_Hoolahan wrote:
After all the crow people had to eat after it turned out that Radu Floricel (who has convictions for assaults on women) wasn't the killer, it turns out the new suspect is also a foreign national.
"Apart from detailed interaction with people well known to him in Ireland, investigations have also involved garda queries to international police agencies. This has been done to determine if the man has a criminal record in other countries where he lived before moving to Ireland." [Irish Independent]
Guess Andy's first instincts were right after all.
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I was only speculating and offering my own observation on what I have perceived to be a skewed weighing of volume of violent crimes reported in media where the perpetrator was foreign in comparison to volume of foreign people in Irish society overall. I wasn't trying to tie it to the specific case as such and the perpetrator was far more likely to be Irish as I admitted as we are the vast majority of the population). People couldn't separate my observational point from this particular case though.
But anyway, I believe in the process of a criminal investigation and refraining from naming and posting pictures of potential suspects. It was wrong for people to hang the first suspect out to dry and similarly it's the same for the new suspect. Let the process run it's course, it sounds like they have their guy and I'm sure the book will be thrown at him and he is in for a life of hell from here on out. |
This is not true at all Andy. Of the 38 murderers in 2021, 4 foreign nationals were charged - Source: Michael O'Toole |
Good stat that, that's roughly in line with the foreign born population of the country. But sure, people don't want to let facts get in the way of good old fashioned xenophobia.
Article in the Times today about right wing agitators using this to further their goals, it's worrying to see. |
Tis actually less. 13% of country are foreign nationals.
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MC Hammered
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 4:45pm |
Fair play. Too many people dig themselves into a hole and refuse to come out when it comes to debates online. Good to see someone open to changing their mind
Edited by MC Hammered - 18 Jan 2022 at 5:41pm
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 5:14pm |
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Fair play Tranny. Too many people dig themselves into a hole and refuse to come out when it comes to debates online. Good to see someone open to changing their mind |
I thought that was an unfortunate typo the first time
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Posted: 18 Jan 2022 at 5:19pm |
ChesterCopperpot wrote:
MC Hammered wrote:
Fair play Tranny. Too many people dig themselves into a hole and refuse to come out when it comes to debates online. Good to see someone open to changing their mind |
I thought that was an unfortunate typo the first time |
Reminds me of an unfortunate misunderstanding my brother and his friends had involving a mate called Packie and a cab driver in Birmingham.
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