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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane sPICE UP YOUR LIFE Gwan MONROY Joined: 29 Mar 2007 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 24595 |
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This is very tough but essential reading..............
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We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups.....
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t_rAndy
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I see the NY Times have ran the story about a certain famous sports star about the alleged assault in December
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Cabra Hoop
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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nvidic
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About time |
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Bob Hoskins
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His retirement barely made much headlines, it used to be if McGregor farted it was everywhere. With a bit of luck he disappears back under his rock
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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ChesterCopperpot
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Now that it's been reported in the US media, does that loosen the ties of Irish media reporting it
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GB 1HughJarse
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A monkey FFS
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Sham157
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ChesterCopperpot
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Denis Irwin
Robbie Keane Stay Home & watch Lethal Weapon Joined: 03 Feb 2008 Location: Ath Cliath Status: Offline Points: 37953 |
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Because the judiciary in this country are arseholes
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Eamonn Dunphy:"I'll tell you who wrote it, Rod Liddle, he's the guy who ran away and left his wife for a young one".
Bill O'Herlihy: Ah ye can't be saying that now Eamonn |
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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It is not clear from the article when or how that came about as a bail term. It was clearly a pre-existing bail term. He was on bail pending sentence. The bail would have been set in the District Court. It is quite possible, indeed likely, that the bail terms were set by agreement with the prosecuting Garda, rather than after a contested bail application. Saying the judiciary are arseholes is nonsense and that article provides no basis for that assertion.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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The general procedure for most crimes is this (assuming it is not murder, basically): Arrest & charge. If no objection to bail on their own bond, release on Garda station bail for a date in the District Court. If there is an objection to bail, or if they want certain terms like that in this case, bring them before a District Court judge. If bail terms can be agreed (e.g. "no female passenger", "stay out of Sword"), get bail agreed and have the accused person enter a bail bond in court. If bail terms cannot be agreed, have the Garda outline his objections, have the accused person's legal rep outline why bail should be granted, then the District Judge makes the decision. That all happens very early in the procedure. The next step, in a case like this, is for it to be remanded back for the book of evidence (which is basically the statements of all proposed State witnesses). Then, once that is prepared and served on the accused person, the case is sent to the Circuit Court. Then the person has to indicate whether they are pleading guilty or not guilty - there are generally lots of cases in the same position in on the same date. Then it is put in for sentence, generally on the same day as a lot of other cases in for sentence. Then, if necessary, if further reports are required by the judge, like psychiatric reports, it is remanded back. And in almost all circumstances, until the final decision is made, the pre-existing bail position is maintained. That is, if someone is given bail at the start of the process, they will generally be on bail until the end of the process. Sometimes bail terms can be changed, sometimes people will be remanded in custody after they plead guilty, but generally people are remanded on bail until the end of the process. This makes sense - no one should be remanded in custody simply because they have pleaded guilty unless they are definitely going to be imprisoned as a result (for example, if you have someone who has pleaded guilty to burglary while on a suspended sentence for burglary, they may well be remanded in custody - this often depends on the Garda bringing the position to the court's attention). And if you need further reports before you make that decision, then they are remanded on continuing bail. The only other reason to change that is if someone is breaching their bail terms. That article doesn't indicate any relevant information on whether the judge in that case was responsible for a decision to remand him on bail or whether there was any objection to him being on continuing bail.
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ChesterCopperpot
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Not really a crime but unsure of another suitable thread
Horrific way to treat the deceased dog, but death treats and apparently 130k signatures demanding the business be closed Trail by Social Media at it's finest
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Have they any leads to go on?
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DUBLIN DOC
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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f**k kennel! That’s awful.
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DUBLIN DOC
Jack Charlton The F The F The FAI Joined: 30 Jun 2009 Location: Abbottstown Status: Offline Points: 9155 |
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Are they not properly vetting the people in charge of these places, they could be barking mad
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Just more of those young pups Chester was talking about...
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