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The Huntacha
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James McClean just tweeted about this on Twitter
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Rangers William 6UK
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New forum names for northern members
AntrimMan= Ballycastle Loyal Criostoir Og= Ulster Flegger Phillyk= Windsor Roar Jinky= Rangers Poppy Boy
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d13dave
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i think this is a good debate lads and its good to hear the perspective of all.
Whats the Protestent/Catholic split in Belfast these days Antrim man? Belfast lad i worked with from the Short Strand reckoned its changing and a lot of protestents are leaving. Surely the staunch loyalists would kick off spectacularly if a vote was passed and Ireland was United. The Loyalists paramilitaries may not rise to the force they were but there would be major unrest. The staunch loyalists kick off about trivial things god only knows how they would react to something not trivial. How long the unrest lasts who knows. Innocent Catholics would be targeted and we could go back to square 1. Is is a United Ireland worth risking relative peace and the death of innocent people?? The Loyalists do not have a Thatcher type figure in Downing street. I do not think the current UK Government or majority of British people care all that much about Northern Ireland or the Loyalist population. Politically id say the UK would not have a major issues relinquishing the North. I would suspect the "Freestate" Government secretly would prefer not to have the hassle of taking the 6 counties back. The process would need to be managed and phased very carefully and we would need major help from Downing Street in the transition period. The PSNI would have a huge role to play I do not think the "freestate" government have the ability or competence to pull this off without major help. Im just a mere "west brit" from Dublin and have never been directly affected by the troubles. Would be nice to have a United Ireland but not at the cost of chaos and death. |
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Cabra Hoop
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I'd go for a 32 county classless republic, call each other comrade and win a barrow load of olympic medals at gymnastics.........
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Metal Paul
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Rangers Billy, Lord Kilfenian, Iris Robinson and probably the Scientist. EDIT: Just seen that the Scientist actually voted no. Edited by Metal Paul - 03 Dec 2013 at 12:07pm |
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horsebox
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I don't see it? |
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AntrimMan
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You take that back right now ye hure ye! I'm not from feckin Ballycastle
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jinky
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Just saying like
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This will become a major political issue if Sinn Fein get into government as part of a coalition after the next election.
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AntrimMan
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No idea about numbers but from an electoral POV, councilors etc, it is majority Nationalist, hence the recent Union Flag vote which passed 29-21 i think.
The West is very heavily Nationalist, as is much of the North. East is majority Unionist while posh South Belfast is becoming more and more Nationalist, even if it the SDLP variety. The city centre is definately becoming more and more 'Irish', most bars have trad sessions etc, there seems to be carrolls gift shops popping up everywhere, little things like that.
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Roberto Baggio
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Can't see it happening in the next 30 years to be honest
Obviously would like to see it I dont believe in bowing down to terrorism and violence though as a reason to be against it. If the people of the island vote for it then it should happen. |
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EastStandMan
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Voted yes . We need a changed mindset re our working classes - if they wont fight for their childrens future how the fkuc can they be expected to fight for Ireland . I do not nor will I ever recognise a border .
I was the lad on the East Stand with the ""32""poster when Rovers ousted linfield from the Setanta cup - the huns across from me seemed to be in awe . Re loyalists causing trouble - no free lunches so know that .
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The E
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Care to elaborate?
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The Huntacha
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He didnt really I just knew that there'd be a few people ready to give him stick on here if he did
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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Dukla
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The argument that the Unionists would kick up a fuss if this happened as a reason for not doing it is ridiculous, you can't let violence override democracy.
Tbh just like a lot of Afrikaners emigrated when Apartheid ended in SA, I genuinely believe a lot of Unionists will emigrate to Scotland (if they aren't already an independent country) or England.
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The Huntacha
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Wouldn't need a new flag, the orange is there for a reason. Funnily enough, I'd be against the idea of changing the anthem (obviously I realise that Unionists/Loyalists would find our anthem offensive). But imagine having to listen to Ireland's Call at football games
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Jimmy Bullard - "Favorite band? Elastic."
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The E
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If there was a yes vote no doubt the Unionist/Loyalist community would want us to change our anthem and flag.
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Flanno7hi
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I voted yes. I can't see how anyone can call themselves an Irish republican and foresake their countryman to rule by a foreign power.
People are claiming economic reasons for me that just shows the sad state of modern Ireland. I'd give up everything for a United Ireland
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