Roy Keane

Trap junior wrote: Oh dear!

Which game was this Trap's reaction after?

Georgia at home (2009)?
France at home?
Or maybe Russia at home?
Slovakia at home then?
Russia away?
Croatia?
Spain?
Italy?
Kazakhstan?
Germany?
Austria at home?
Sweden at home?
Austria away?
Or was it after the FAI belatedly told him that they realised he was not up to the job?

horsebox wrote: Do you know anything about football Rolo? Judging by your deluded posts the last while it's quite clear you don't.

I've played several games and watched many many more. Always interested. Constantly reading books and articles. Always learning. And the game is always changing (something Trap wasnt prepared to accept).

You probably know alot more than me about football. Who are we to say you are right about Trap?

Encouraging interview from ONeill 

horsebox wrote: Kerrzy wrote: Fantastic commitment from MON's successor in waiting. Meanwhile in Italy Trap remains unemployed.. Unbelievable really when you consider all the offers he was getting from other teams during his time with us!! What a pathetic comment.

Trap is 74 or 75 years of age FFS and unlikely to manage again due to his age! As if anyone will hand him a 4 year contract!  A great manager who had an amazing career and did a very good job for us until the euros.  The football was Catenaccio which he has played his whole career and if you know your stuff you would not have been surprised by the way we played from day 1 with us.  Sure its not pretty but thats why he talked about the show as opposed to the result from his first press conference. He wanted results and got them in usually ugly ways but that was what he has done all along.  Naive people on here think O'Neill has changed alot so far. I would be willing to bet that a lot of players start reverting to long ball again in the qualifiers. Why? Because they are instructed to by O'Neill? Maybe but more likely it is to do with their lack of skill and confidence when under the gun against better players. They will panic when some good team presses us and just kick it away.  The performance against Latvia means nothing. They were a subutteo team.  One of the worst teams we have played in years-in a friendly and they were obviously not up for it. If Keane has to fix anything with Ireland its calmness and assuredness of players in tight spaces. But he cant give them technical ability.  If O'Neill does a good job we will be back in the hunt for 2nd place in groups-just what Trapattoni achieved.  Thats where we belong and until we start developing better players and moving away from archaic ideas about the game thats where we will remain or probably slip further behind to be honest.  Trap achieved 2 second places from 3 campaigns. His remit was to get 2nd spot and hopefully a qualification. The public and fans would have undoubtedly accepted that in January 2008. In fact they would have bitten your hand off for it.  He also qualified us. Poor results after that but if it wasnt for him we wold all be at home scratching our asses last year.  If management was so easy sure everybody here would be a manager making a fortune.  Calling him a clown and dumb and dumber etc is laughable. Also Marco Tardelli scored a cracker in a world cup final and won a world cup. Was a f**king great player.  Trap has won everything in club football. In your opinion is O'Neill's record superior to Trapattoni?

Stan went to see a lot games and we did well under him also

Kerrzy wrote: Claret Murph wrote: Stan went to see a lot games and we did well under him also   Bottom line it all begins in September Play poorly and win or cracking football and lose or draw .   What would you pick in the Quals ? I cant see us playing cracking football.  I dont care what way we play as long as all players have an equal opportunity and players are picked on merit and our manager has more than 1 system in mind to influence games. Without harping on about Trap, it is refreshing to know that Long's performance the other night, as an example, will not be discarded unlike if he did that a year ago.

Trap junior wrote: Kerrzy wrote: Claret Murph wrote: Stan went to see a lot games and we did well under him also   Bottom line it all begins in September Play poorly and win or cracking football and lose or draw .   What would you pick in the Quals ? I cant see us playing cracking football.  I dont care what way we play as long as all players have an equal opportunity and players are picked on merit and our manager has more than 1 system in mind to influence games. Without harping on about Trap, it is refreshing to know that Long's performance the other night, as an example, will not be discarded unlike if he did that a year ago. You might be wrong there. Keane will start the majority of games.

Kerrzy wrote: Claret Murph wrote: Stan went to see a lot games and we did well under him also   Bottom line it all begins in September Play poorly and win or cracking football and lose or draw .   What would you pick in the Quals ? I cant see us playing cracking football.  I dont care what way we play as long as all players have an equal opportunity and players are picked on merit and our manager has more than 1 system in mind to influence games. Without harping on about Trap, it is refreshing to know that Long's performance the other night, as an example, will not be discarded unlike if he did that a year ago.

Long got his chance and failed to take it. He played in nearly every game under Trap post the Euro's yet for some reason your trying blame Long's poor form on Trap.