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The O'Shea
Jack Charlton I know everything and I’m NEVER wrong Joined: 16 Aug 2013 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9555 |
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Keane was a fine boxer I believe, and an absolute headcase. If I'd a choice between fighting someone stronger than me or someone crazier, I'd choose stronger every time...
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We're decent enough..
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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They had more than one run in. There's a bit in Keane's autobiography about that fight. Shearer called him a "stupid c*nt" or something like that, Keane punched him, got the red, then as he was walking off Shearer called him a "stupid c*nt" again and Keane, in the autobiography, accepted that he was a stupid c*nt because Shearer had wound him up enough to make Keane punch him and get sent off. I think there was a sort of grudging respect at the fact Shearer was a bigger c*nt than Keane himself.
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Cabra Hoop
Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10838 |
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Drunkin Dunc v Big Bad John a much better scrap in the heavy weight division.......
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 25088 |
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This is probably one for the unpopular opinion thread but in terms of ability, I do think Shearer is one of the few English players that was a genuinely world class striker.
Could finish with both feet, good penalty (and free kick taker as far as I remember). Good in the air, very strong and had a fantastic shot. Overrated lads? Lineker (a little bit before my time) gets a lot of praise but would Shearer be better overall? Lineker depended on his pace a bit more?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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No way was Lineker overrated. I would say the opposite! People thought all he did was score goals, but there is an art in being that lucky. His record speaks for itself. I think it was the speed of his reaction rather than just his pace.
Shearer is a ****, and always was, but was an unbelievable player. One of the greats of the English game, but never took much stick for his lack of interest in their national team.
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Green Cockade
Liam Brady Joined: 22 Jan 2020 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 2692 |
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Shearer did deck Keith Gillespie once in Dublin when Newcastle were there to play some team. To be fair, nothing wrong with that, Gillespie had it coming and generally required a few slaps from time to time to teach him manners. He ( i.e. Gillespie ) had a tendency to overdo bad behaviour be it fags, booze , gambling or women ( he recently was the subject of a restraining order due to his harassment of a woman ) and was a lippy little self-entitled prima donna prat at the best of times. He was widely blamed for getting the well meaning but ineffectual Sammy McIlroy the sack from the NI job through indisciplined behaviour and leading other balloons like Roy Carroll , Kyle Lafferty and others down a similar path. You'd never get tired punching him. Shearer, on the other hand, was a fine pro. Had some epic battles with Richard Dunne.
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16469 |
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Couldn't agree more, Lineker was a great striker, his positioning was phenomenal alongside Flippo Inzaghi my favourite striker of all time. Shearer was brilliant for a period of 94 to around 98/98. He had a bad injury which slowed him down pace wise during the middle of that time, but when he came back he continued to score goals. A right arsehole though too alright, but as OP said Keane respected that as he'd do anything to help his team win.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32789 |
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Lineker was world class striker. Brilliant at two world cups and scored for fun on the wing st barca. Let developer
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AKA pedantic kunt
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16469 |
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FYI the whole thing resurfaced following a Match of the Day show over the weekend where Lineker, wright and Shearer ranked the top 10 Premier League captains,
That they ranked Steven Gerrard higher then Keane tells you how serious it should have been taken
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Yeah, I loved Inzaghi. I found his personality on the pitch infectious. He always looked like he had been terribly wronged until he scored. I especially loved how he seemed to celebrate the easier ones more. Ferguson said he was born offside, but that was where good strikers should be playing the game.
There were certainly similarities between him and Lineker.
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lassassinblanc
Paul McGrath Cheese, it’s not just for eating Joined: 27 Sep 2010 Location: Clairefontaine Status: Offline Points: 16469 |
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Exactly they just knew where to be and when to run when they needed to. That instinct isn't something you can teach it's natural
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kearney304
Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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I literally LOL'd at this comment - regarding Keane size He had one serious injury in his whole career. Often broke lads twice his size up. Then referenced big Pat and spelt his name wrong. As for this, I'm with Keane's weaker frame he wouldn't have come out on top in so many clashes. What a complete and utter sh*te post. Also - Roy had a screw loose, would have taken Shearer's head clean off. |
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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Don't disagree with your general characterisation of Gillespie and why Shearer could be forgiven for decking him, but your bold is way off the mark. McIlroy was not sacked. He resigned the job and immediately stepped into another job he'd already lined up with Stockport County in his old Greater Manchester stomping ground. Iirc, this was soon after he'd had his contract renewed by the IFA in act of supreme loyalty/stupidity (delete as preferred) after 4 truly appalling, Stauntonesque years: 5 wins in 29 games, all of them in the first year and all of them against truly crap teams - Luxembourg, Iceland and Malta x 3. Now it's fair to say that Gillespie, one of the most talented players in an otherwise poor squad, was pretty crap for the first 50-odd of his 86 caps. But the first 29 of those were before McIlroy was even appointed, followed by the 21 of McIlroy's 29 in charge. When Sanchez took over, Gillespie finally began to show touches of the ability that had seen him play for Newcastle in the Champions League etc, never more so than in that famous win over England in 2005, when he made a mug out of Wayne Rooney, the 3-2 win over a fabulous Spain a year later, or the magnicent victory over Denmark the year after! The point being that with sound management (eg Sanchez), Gillespie was still worth picking, whereas with poor management (eg McIlroy), he was only worth shooting. (As for Carroll and Lafferty, neither of those two balloons needed any encouragement from Gillespie or anyone else.)
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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Have you ever seen Keane close up? He's no size. Now you might consider that that makes his aggression more admirable, though some might say it made him more foolhardy, not least for the red/yellow card suspensions he incurred. As for the "screw loose" argument, you just need to look at boxing to see how far that gets you eg Duran v Leonard II. As for Keane's injury record, he played for MU for 13 seasons from 1993 to 2005, playing 326 PL games = 25 games per season. He was almost an exact contemporary of Darren "Sicknote" Anderton, who played for Spurs in 12 seasons from 1992 to 2004, making 299 PL appearances = 25 games per season. Now granted, Keane played a good few more Cup games (and caps) than Anderton, but it is striking that during their careers, Anderton made 471 League appearances, whereas Keane made 473 (or 450 if you exclude Cobh Ramblers ). Yet Anderton gained his injury reputation while Keane was being the "hardman who'd play with a broken leg etc". P.S. Sorry about the Vieira typo - always automatically invalidates any point anyone ever tries to make
Edited by Territorial - 23 Mar 2020 at 6:13pm |
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10656 |
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Anderton also played two seasons over and above Keane. 2005/2006 was also a disrupted season for Keane. During that whole period Anderton made 90 further appearances.
Edited by Het-field - 23 Mar 2020 at 6:19pm |
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bundy
Davey Langan Joined: 12 Apr 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 935 |
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To be fair, nobody talks about the past more than that muppet Keane.
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Territorial
Jack Charlton Joined: 25 Nov 2014 Status: Offline Points: 5817 |
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You mean he played on longer.
He left OT in mid-November and played his first game for Celtic in early January - hardly a huge disruption. Fact is, he was physically done by that stage, not least due to a playing style which whilst hugely committed, was also frequently reckless. Whereas Sicknote managed his injuries so as to extend his career another couple of seasons. Which of the two was the cleverer? |
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Het-field
Roy Keane By Appointment to His Majesty The King Joined: 08 Mar 2016 Status: Offline Points: 10656 |
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Keane didn’t play between September 2005-November 2005 due to injury, and made 10 appearances in the league for Celtic. It was a disrupted season. Leaving United mid season, joining Celtic compounded that.
I’m quite sure Keane could have played on in League 1 or 2 if he had wanted to. Edited by Het-field - 23 Mar 2020 at 7:09pm |
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