Next Manager - press conference Saturday

Trap junior wrote: I would love to see a left field appointment from the continent. Some hidden gem or someone who wants a semi retirement job. If this is not possible Mick McCarthy is the best candidate from Britain, or possibly Neil Lennon. I think both would do a decent job. However we need to move away from the british style. But that would be a major long term project which I doubt will ever happen here for a variety of reasons. 1. The FAI and schoolboy leagues are short sighted and have an Irish 'cut corners' approach that will take generations to rid ourselves of if it indeed ever happens at all. 2. We may have to endure a decade or maybe 15 years of potentially being absolutely rubbish in Senior football implementing a new philosophy and new way of playing. But again I dont think the IRish are willing to pay that price so we will continue as we are. 3. Irish kids are too well off. No one kicks a ball on the streets for hours anymore. They are too busy getting Playstations and laptops. Too much distractions. Even kids who do play dont have the hunger to make it and practice all day. 4. The game is mismanaged and underfunded here. We need to make the LOI a better standard league where it becomes a feeder system for talent. The LOI teams also needs to implement a totally new way of playing. This will never happen. To sum up:  Irish people want quick fixes, scapegoats, would rather cut corners than do it right.  We refuse to think long term and its a me me me culture. A small silly example is this. My neighbour was learning to be a wrought iron worker many years ago at FAS. He had a German instructor.  One day my neighbour was making some gate or something and he cut a corner. It didnt really make much of a difference to the integrity of the gate and no one would notice. Then the German instructor came over to inspect the work and noticed that a small corner had been cut. He noticed that he had not followed the procedure to the letter and was giving out. My neighbour said ''ah sure nobody would notice that.''.  The German replied ''you are cheating the honour of workmanship.'' My neighbour told me in retrospect the german was dead right.   The German worker wont pull a fast one while the Irish look for every opportunity to do it.  This mindset is why we will never fix football here.

For the monies we are paying MON/RK we should of been aiming higher than MON/RK for an international manager

Newryrep wrote: Trap junior wrote: I would love to see a left field appointment from the continent. Some hidden gem or someone who wants a semi retirement job. If this is not possible Mick McCarthy is the best candidate from Britain, or possibly Neil Lennon. I think both would do a decent job. However we need to move away from the british style. But that would be a major long term project which I doubt will ever happen here for a variety of reasons. 1. The FAI and schoolboy leagues are short sighted and have an Irish 'cut corners' approach that will take generations to rid ourselves of if it indeed ever happens at all. 2. We may have to endure a decade or maybe 15 years of potentially being absolutely rubbish in Senior football implementing a new philosophy and new way of playing. But again I dont think the IRish are willing to pay that price so we will continue as we are. 3. Irish kids are too well off. No one kicks a ball on the streets for hours anymore. They are too busy getting Playstations and laptops. Too much distractions. Even kids who do play dont have the hunger to make it and practice all day. 4. The game is mismanaged and underfunded here. We need to make the LOI a better standard league where it becomes a feeder system for talent. The LOI teams also needs to implement a totally new way of playing. This will never happen. To sum up:  Irish people want quick fixes, scapegoats, would rather cut corners than do it right.  We refuse to think long term and its a me me me culture. A small silly example is this. My neighbour was learning to be a wrought iron worker many years ago at FAS. He had a German instructor.  One day my neighbour was making some gate or something and he cut a corner. It didnt really make much of a difference to the integrity of the gate and no one would notice. Then the German instructor came over to inspect the work and noticed that a small corner had been cut. He noticed that he had not followed the procedure to the letter and was giving out. My neighbour said ''ah sure nobody would notice that.''.  The German replied ''you are cheating the honour of workmanship.'' My neighbour told me in retrospect the german was dead right.   The German worker wont pull a fast one while the Irish look for every opportunity to do it.  This mindset is why we will never fix football here. For the monies we are paying MON/RK we should of been aiming higher than MON/RK for an international manager

I agree as I think a few may have noticed I wasnt in favour of his appointment

I think it was playing to the barstooler appointing him and Keane and showed no ambition or imagination.
I mean after the Euros it was clear as day that Ireland needed technically better players, a better way of playing and then we appoint O'NEill who is the anthisesis of a new method.

I am in favour of a contintental but if it has to be a quick fix as usual then Mick McCarthy would be my choice as he has showed in the past that his team can beat better sides and play good football.  Then again the fear is that second time around it wont be the same. No Robbie, no Roy, no Duffer...

Dont really know woul we be better off getting rid of him or giving him another 2 years. After the mess Trap left us in it was going to take a while to change things around. Bit you would have thought that 8 friendly games before the 1st qualfier would have been long enough to do that..

I think he will be kept on as it was a JD appointment but I definitely think they should at least assess the alternatives in the next few months before deciding

Good post Trap Junior and totally correct.

In our club Id noticed a severe slip in standards over the past few years.
Id been concentrating on the senior side as Id brought them up from u8s.

I made a conscience decision to focus on the Academy and set out a five year plan, not a quick fix.
Any teams over the age of 12/13 were basically a lost cause, sadly.

Three years into the plan the results are remarkable.
Despite pressure within the club I refused to enter a team in u8s last year, keeping them back for quality coaching.
The kids are not only very technical but are encouraged to use their brains.
I do not make decisions for them.

Irish kids are every bit as techinical as any kid in the World up to the age of say 14.
Its what happens after that is the problem.

Ive also brought a tactical coach into the club to help the over 12s as I cant do everything.
Its amazing how many managers are against it.
Ive sacked one already and 2 more will follow if they dont tow the line.

If O'Neill goes then the only man for the job is Mick McCarthy. An expert at getting the most from his squad.

Hiddink about to resign as Dutch boss. Wouldn't say no to him (if MON does go after this campaign) even if the Dutch haven't exactly been firing on all cylinders under him.

Edited by Denis Irwin - 29 Jun 2015 at 3:41pm

I say hold the daggers on mon campaign has a bit to go

KILCRUISE wrote: I say hold the daggers on mon campaign has a bit to go

+1

I thought Brady gave a very classy response when Maloney asked him after the Scotland game his thoughts on a prospective replacement. He seemed to think it was disrespectful to O'Neill, didn't have much time for it anyway.

Firstly, we shouldnt have any third party with such a phenomenal interest in an employee of the FAI's, don't mind the man who is funding the manager at the moment.