Tottenham Hotspur Thread

Territorial wrote: pre Madonna wrote: coyne wrote: And some people said at the start of the reason that he won't be world class in the EPL thread?  Is he though? A world squad to play Mars, is Kane in it? I am not so sure, as much as I enjoy watching him play. If you consider "World Class" to mean sure to start in the world's "Best XI", then no. But that's a bit limiting, since the inclusion eg of Ronaldo to lead the attack, would likely mean no place eg for Suarez. And you can't say Suarez isn't "world class". Similarly, you would pick Messi over Hazard, or maybe Buffon over Oblak or Neuer. The measure I would use is that if you were picking a World XI, would a given player look out of place in that company? And HK must be getting very close to that level now.

Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote: Kane will go on to break the English scoring record if he stays injury free. With the level of competition and the number of games now he will break that record IMO.

The English Premier League record possibly, but football didn't start in 1992.

And although I may be Kane's biggest fan, I can tell you he will NOT take the all-time English scoring record (top flight) from this genius:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Greaves

Following on from my earlier post, by the time JG was HK's present age, he had already reached the 200 mark for League goals in the English top flight (plus 9 goals in 12 games for AC Milan during a brief spell in Serie A). 

Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote: Too early to be talking about Shearers record. He scored over 30 goals for 3 seasons in a row!!

Clearly no guarantee he'll go on to overtake Shearer, since fitness and longevity etc can't be taken for granted.

But it is curious that at 23 years and 10 months, HK has now scored 75 goals in 115 top flight games (incs sub appearances) = 0.65 goals per game.

At exactly the same age, Shearer had scored 70 goals in 179 top flight games (inc. subs) = 0.39 goals per game.

Of course Shearer really hit his stride in his mid 20's, so he ended up with 283 goals in 559 League games = 0.51 goals per game.

But HK is still "ahead of schedule", esp if you add in his cup, international, European and loan goals record, which is also better than Shearer's at the same age.

BrendanD88 wrote: pre Madonna wrote: coyne wrote: And some people said at the start of the reason that he won't be world class in the EPL thread?  It's crazy to think how many goals a season he'd get if he wasn't so slow starting a season - He's yet to reach 5 goals by the time he hits November but hits 20+ from November to May 3 seasons in a row, and he's only 23 ffs.  Shearer's EPL record is well and truly on course to be f**ked. Is he though? A world squad to play Mars, is Kane in it? I am not so sure, as much as I enjoy watching him play. Certainly has the potential to be world class but he isn't at that level yet.

pre Madonna wrote: coyne wrote: And some people said at the start of the reason that he won't be world class in the EPL thread?  It's crazy to think how many goals a season he'd get if he wasn't so slow starting a season - He's yet to reach 5 goals by the time he hits November but hits 20+ from November to May 3 seasons in a row, and he's only 23 ffs.  Shearer's EPL record is well and truly on course to be f**ked. Is he though? A world squad to play Mars, is Kane in it? I am not so sure, as much as I enjoy watching him play.

Certainly has the potential to be world class but he isn't at that level yet.

Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote: SuperDave84 wrote: Yeah far too early to talk about Shearer. Kane still has to score about 200 more goals to beat him, ffs. He needs another 8 seasons like this one, and that's even assuming he stays. It's also assuming he doesn't have a career slump (/cliffdive) like Wayne Rooney. Now Kane doesn't look like a lover of pies, pints, cigs and late nights but you never know. Kane > Rooney Rooney has only ever scored 20+ goals twice for MAN U. Kane will go on to break the English scoring record if he stays injury free. With the level of competition and the number of games now he will break that record IMO.

Rooney was far more than just a goalscorer, Kane will be doing well to reach Rooney's level.

Yeah far too early to talk about Shearer. Kane still has to score about 200 more goals to beat him, ffs. He needs another 8 seasons like this one, and that's even assuming he stays. It's also assuming he doesn't have a career slump (/cliffdive) like Wayne Rooney. Now Kane doesn't look like a lover of pies, pints, cigs and late nights but you never know.

ah I genuinely can't see kane ever leaving spurs. after they have moved into the new stadium, levy will increase the wage ceiling and back kane with another long-term contract. I'd be more inclined to say that alii will move on at some stage, RM being the most likely buyer

coyne wrote: And some people said at the start of the reason that he won't be world class in the EPL thread?  It's crazy to think how many goals a season he'd get if he wasn't so slow starting a season - He's yet to reach 5 goals by the time he hits November but hits 20+ from November to May 3 seasons in a row, and he's only 23 ffs.  Shearer's EPL record is well and truly on course to be f**ked.

Can see Real Madrid coming in for him next year or so. And a much as Spurs say they won't sell a 70-100m bid will be too irresistible for Levy