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goal and an assist vs Dundalk

And gave the ball away for a goal also

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Id have no problem seeing byrne start for ireland. Play him in an advanced role. Even though mick was there last night he wont see any minutes.
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Kenny always plays with a number 10 so we should see Byrne or possibly Ronan fill that role
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Kenny always plays with a number 10 so we should see Byrne or possibly Ronan fill that role
How is Graham Carey doing? If Carruthers can get his act together he would be an option too. Has been excellent recently and playing at a higher level than Byrne.
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Originally posted by Mr. Snrub Mr. Snrub wrote:

Kenny always plays with a number 10 so we should see Byrne or possibly Ronan fill that role
How is Graham Carey doing? If Carruthers can get his act together he would be an option too. Has been excellent recently and playing at a higher level than Byrne.

That's a long way to go just to get a dig in at the LOI.
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No dig at all. Carruthers looks the real deal and Carey is a better player, from what I have seen. 
I love the league, I am also a realist about the level it is.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

goal and an assist vs Dundalk

And gave the ball away for a goal also


Two assists, so.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

goal and an assist vs Dundalk

And gave the ball away for a goal also


In fairness, it was a good challenge from Slogget while he was making the pass rather than straight forward giving the ball away.

Also, Byrne played the key pass in the move for Watts goal too.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

No dig at all. Carruthers looks the real deal and Carey is a better player, from what I have seen. 
I love the league, I am also a realist about the level it is.


Well it's a good thing then that individual players are what's called up to the squad not entire leagues.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

No dig at all. Carruthers looks the real deal and Carey is a better player, from what I have seen. 
I love the league, I am also a realist about the level it is.


Well it's a good thing then that individual players are what's called up to the squad not entire leagues.
I get that point, to an extent, but there has to be some sort of yardstick. The likes of Towell and Maguire stood out far more and aren’t good enough. At the moment Byrne is little more than a very good LOI player. That’s not good enough and shouldn’t be.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Cousins Tony Cousins wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

No dig at all. Carruthers looks the real deal and Carey is a better player, from what I have seen. 
I love the league, I am also a realist about the level it is.


Well it's a good thing then that individual players are what's called up to the squad not entire leagues.
I get that point, to an extent, but there has to be some sort of yardstick. The likes of Towell and Maguire stood out far more and aren’t good enough. At the moment Byrne is little more than a very good LOI player. That’s not good enough and shouldn’t be.

Towell played in one of the best LOI teams of all time and Maguire as a forward will always stand out more than a creative centre midfielder who isn't overly renowned for his goal scoring attributes (despite a good record at Shamrock Rovers)

Jack Byrne could play at a higher level than LOI though, how far could Samir Carruthers go right now? It's Byrne's choice to stay in the LOI.
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If Carruthers can sort himself out he can unquestionably play higher than League Two. He has already performed well at a higher level. Byrne has only really done anything consistently in the LOI, bar a brief spell at Oldham. I can understand why he does, it is his right, but only adds questions rather than answer them.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

If Carruthers can sort himself out he can unquestionably play higher than League Two. He has already performed well at a higher level. Byrne has only really done anything consistently in the LOI, bar a brief spell at Oldham. I can understand why he does, it is his right, but only adds questions rather than answer them.


Byrne has always been exceptionally good technically but yeah he lost his way at various clubs and thankfully coming home has helped him regain his confidence and he's now starting to show his potential albeit at LOI level.

He's probably ready now to go and tackle a bigger challenge, mentally and physically imo but his next move will be crucial. I think it will make or break his career, we all know he can always come back to Ireland and be a star but I'm sure he wants more than that.

It will be interesting to see where he ends up mind.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Originally posted by Tony Cousins Tony Cousins wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

No dig at all. Carruthers looks the real deal and Carey is a better player, from what I have seen. 
I love the league, I am also a realist about the level it is.


Well it's a good thing then that individual players are what's called up to the squad not entire leagues.
I get that point, to an extent, but there has to be some sort of yardstick. The likes of Towell and Maguire stood out far more and aren’t good enough. At the moment Byrne is little more than a very good LOI player. That’s not good enough and shouldn’t be.

you take each case individually. clearly jack byrne is talented, anyone that watches LOI games regularly knows this. he ran the show against Brann in the europa league last year in both games which shows his talent can transfer. yes there are players in our midfield squad who play at a higher level but are any of them technically better than him(possibly jeff who has good close control). he does things the rest of them can't do. FACT. don't give me this mullarkey hes only playing at LOI level cause its bollix IMO. talent is talent is talent. right now hes a million per cent deserves to be in the squad at a minimum. Personally i would like to see him get some decent minutes also.


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I mentioned Carey and Carruthers above as they are both technically proficient footballers playing at a higher level than Byrne. Both have overcome tougher tests at higher levels than Byrne. 
I think there are far too many doubts about him to be near the squad. That isn’t just down to the league he is playing in either. 
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I don't care what anyone says > a player starring in the LOI should never start for us, if we want to be taken seriously that is. 

He is a talented boy but what level can he play at? It doesn't matter if the home sickness is now gone, he needs to be playing in England. 

Until as such time as Irish sides are mixing it up in the Europa League group stages (at least) we can forget it. 

On one hand we sl*g off lads who are league 1 and then lament JB. 

Truth is league one team would beat Rovers.
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I don't care what anyone says > a player starring in the LOI should never start for us, if we want to be taken seriously that is. 

He is a talented boy but what level can he play at? It doesn't matter if the home sickness is now gone, he needs to be playing in England. 

Until as such time as Irish sides are mixing it up in the Europa League group stages (at least) we can forget it. 

On one hand we sl*g off lads who are league 1 and then lament JB. 

Truth is league one team would beat Rovers.

Literally everything that is wrong with irish football in those 2 sentences. He needs to be playing in England. 
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How? It's the truth. Unless Irish football is doing well in Europe - then we can forget about it. 

Take off the blinkers.
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