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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Jack loves the beer.  How is he finding the local ale over there?

This is just tired.

I'd like to see him given a run but today's game seems a big ask.
Maybe get him some minutes in the NL matches after today.

We can't look past the fact he's playing at a low level compared to almost the entirely of the rest of the squad and until that changes, he's a risk.
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Jack loves the beer.  How is he finding the local ale over there?
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Originally posted by planning planning wrote:

Kenny was brought in to change how play and radically change our mindset about how we do it. 25 years of lack of ambition and persistent failure have to go. So everything from personnel to formation to tactics are in the process of being torn up and reset. 

A lot of our players used to play in the LOI so it's a resource we should be using more of. We have nobody else better than Byrne in his position. He has already showed that in the games he played for us, and the only thing stopping him from been the first name on the squad sheet is the league he plays in, not whether he's up to it or not. That has to change. 
 
Thing is so many of our lads looked like fishes out of water on the ball against Bulgaria and Finland it was an effort to even control and pass it . The one thing that stands out about Byrne is wether it’s Bohs Dundalk New Zealand Bulgaria or AC Milan one thing stands out and that is how comfortable he is on the ball. It’s absolute 2nd nature to him and I remember Hoolahan when he’d come in and do the very bare minimum basics of show quality/composure on the ball it would rub off on those around him too. 
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Kenny was brought in to change how play and radically change our mindset about how we do it. 25 years of lack of ambition and persistent failure have to go. So everything from personnel to formation to tactics are in the process of being torn up and reset. 

A lot of our players used to play in the LOI so it's a resource we should be using more of. We have nobody else better than Byrne in his position. He has already showed that in the games he played for us, and the only thing stopping him from been the first name on the squad sheet is the league he plays in, not whether he's up to it or not. That has to change. 
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Would love to see Jack get on against Slovakia and show the blinkered EPL lemmings what he can do, irrespective of the opposition he faces. My head says he'll be an unused substitute. His time will come sooner rather than later anyway. 
Kenny is in a bit of a bind in terms of what he should do for this game,. 
If he plays open expansive football we will get beaten quite handily, but we can't surely continue to rely on a Duffy set piece goal as our only offensive option.
Hopefully mcgoldrick will do his thing for us, he seems an honest genuine guy. 
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some great breweries in and around most big cities nowadays..........what with all these halfling barrells of craft beers on the go.....
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Some great breweries in and around Denver.
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Could all be just talk but..
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Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 
MLS is absolutely miles above the LoI. They’re really not even comparable. 

Would there be much difference in Gonzalo Higuain and Andre Wright?
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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 
MLS is absolutely miles above the LoI. They’re really not even comparable. 

Would there be much difference in Gonzalo Higuain and Andre Wright?
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Originally posted by IrishCanadian IrishCanadian wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 
MLS is absolutely miles above the LoI. They’re really not even comparable. 

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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 
MLS is absolutely miles above the LoI. They’re really not even comparable. 
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 

MLS would be broadly similar to Championship and league 1 so a big step up from the LoI.
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Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 

Probably would be in terms of facilities and compensation.

I’m not against him staying at shamrock rovers by any means, as long as it’s the best preparation for the national team. 
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Originally posted by DeclanDaly DeclanDaly wrote:

Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 

He's already playing regularly at a decent level, not convinced the MLS would be a massive step up standard wise. 
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Bournemouth would be a good move if he actually plays. They have an ethos that suits him. He liked Holland so I’m surprised another option hasn’t turned up there.

MLS is also not the worst option. Decent enough pay and high standard of facilities (if not football). Could work out well for him, get him playing regularly. 
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So would he go somewhere now or at the end of the year when his contract expires? 
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Originally posted by Mr Brick Mr Brick wrote:

Originally posted by Banjaxed Banjaxed wrote:

Originally posted by Ecumenical Matter Ecumenical Matter wrote:

EPL and championship clubs watch every league and could have picked him up for small money.  The fact that they haven’t suggests that he is not at that level consistently or doesn’t have the necessary physicality.  However, he is still worth having in the Ireland squad because he can do something different.  We are very short on creativity. 

Jack is well aware that he's never had so much "heat". He probably won't be in this position again and knows full well that his next move is probably the most important move he'll ever make in his career.

So I wouldn't discount the fact that Jack is the one who was delayed a move and not necessarily a case that there hasn't been offers. 

If I were Jack I wouldn't want to be going to a club who's "willing to take a punt on me". Jack needs to know exactly what he's getting himself in for. There's no point going to a club that's going to pay him lip service about being a number 10, and then after a couple of bad results the team resorts to hoof ball and Jack ends up on the wing (like a lot of number 10's tend to do) being ineffective. Then the narrative turns to... "that Jack Byrne is a bit sh*t."


He'll probably get another chance at a higher level. Clubs would be "taking a punt' - he has a bit of history and his options will reflect it.  If he's good enough and he's disciplined he'll have a good outcome. Or he might just want to stay in Dublin. Fine, but that seriously impacts his international hopes.  

Hasnt done him any harm up to now.
He has one cap - off the bench in a meaningless friendly.

2 caps and been picked in squads. Dont remember him being in squads before his return or any caps.
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