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Ray Houghton Joined: 16 Aug 2019 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 0 |
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I reluctantly agree with Kearney on this, LOI has been very poorly managed from the top and in many ways resembles amateur football. Yes, there are some good players but they are also on the pitch with some, not so good players. The good players there need to be pushed to the limits of their ability and sadly that means the english league (or other but generally england)
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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The biggest thing wrong with Irish football has been a refusal to take a realistic appraisal of where it is at. The LOI is very much part of that. |
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Jack Charlton Teenage Kicks, so hard to beat Joined: 30 Mar 2015 Status: Offline Points: 7715 |
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The goal he set up against bulgaria shows what type of vision he has. But that was just a friendly so that doesn't matter either right. Brainwashed half of ye are.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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And you are equally brainwashed the other way, which is the problem. International friendly matches are beyond pointless, you are correct there.
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Roy Keane Joined: 06 Feb 2012 Location: Royal County Status: Offline Points: 10841 |
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Its best to avoid any discussion with the West Cork Warrior when the discussion concerns anything or anybody remotely connected to Dublin. And heaven forbid you make a spelling or grammar error...
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Isn’t Carey from Dublin?
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25097 |
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PM is making fair points on Jack Byrne given the relatively low level he is playing at which is arguably even lower than League Two. I think of most our senior players need to be playing in at least championship level (and whatever equivalent in other countries) or higher bar one or two exceptions for e.g. young Irish player being on loan at a League One side maybe.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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JoxerDaly
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Apr 2018 Location: Dublin Status: Offline Points: 1273 |
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PreMadonna Byrne had a very good season in Holland when he was 19 played very well against likes of Ajax and scored some great goals, he had a good season in League 1 with Oldham and scored a lot of goals from midfield, hes played well in Europe aswel, the boy has talent and will play at a higher level, Norwich were close to signing him at the start of the season but sure he only plays LOI hes not good enough.
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34884 |
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He's on his 8th club, after falling out of favour or having run ins with managers or whatever the excuse it. He's a talented player but fails on many occasions to influence games in a league who are mostly part time. I don't think he's the best player at Rovers. For me he doesn't do enough. If he wants to copper fasten his place in the Ireland squad he should be playing at a higher level. |
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Liam Brady Joined: 25 Feb 2014 Location: Cork Status: Offline Points: 1992 |
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Don't know why it's reluctant. It's not like I don't want to players to do well. But I'm realistic as well. It's not about how good he is or isn't, it's the standard of the league. For example, if a talented lad is playing in MLS - one of which is true and moved to Atlanta, would we be on here saying he has to start, be on the plane etc. We wouldn't - LOI falls in to that category, we look at PL / championship players as the league is competitive. That's it simply put.
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Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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The sheer amount of ex-LOI players in and around the national team squad shows that it's a better standard than League 2 or even 1. But whether he's playing at home, abroad, or on the moon, he has no chance of playing in Slovakia. It will be a rearguard action for however long the game is, and that's not him. Aside from that, he isn't "experienced enough" to play for Ireland until McCarthy is gone, which may be just 6 weeks away. Useless dinosaur couldn't even be arsd to stay and watch one of his players score the winner at the weekend, a great goal at any level. I know many of our fans would happily flee the stadium asap when the gates open, during one of McCarthy's games. I wonder how he would like it if they did.
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" BFC always gives me a laugh........ "
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horsebox
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FAO kearney30
I was talking to a Rovers fan who was out with Byrne and the sqaud after the cup final and they were saying that Byrne was hard on the gargle |
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It was far across the sea,
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horsebox
Robbie Keane Born n bred in darndale. Joined: 03 Feb 2010 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 34884 |
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I'd consider L1 and the Scottish league to be a higher level. Both are full time professional leagues with better facilities etc.. |
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It was far across the sea,
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Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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He had a few good games in the Eredivisie, there was very little consistency it seems, like much of his career. Also, like other mid-tier European leagues, there is a big drop off in quality. I wouldn’t say there is much between the bottom of the Dutch and Scottish leagues. I doubt anybody would have been getting too excited if he had had a few good games for Hamilton Academicals. I don’t think anybody is saying that he doesn’t have talent, it is more about how much and can he apply it. He has the talent to play higher than LOI, but hasn’t done much to show it. From what I have seen, albeit not regularly enough for different reasons, Carruthers has as much, if not more, talent than Byrne and is playing in a gruelling league that’s fully professional. Carey is another who has done it consistently in these leagues, although I am unaware of his time in Bulgaria. It seems to be that LOI fans want players to be good enough rather than giving a fair appraisal. We all want him to be good enough, but expressing some realism or doubt isn’t having a dig at the league for no reason or because he is a Dub. Try and look at it without the tribalism.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25097 |
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Even League 1? You're taking the piss
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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pre Madonna
Robbie Keane I am MALDING Joined: 30 Nov 2014 Location: Trumpton Status: Offline Points: 44659 |
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Yes, as HB said.
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