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Monaghan could have been saved if the CEO of our association wasn't off getting pissed some fans and returned home as soon as he heard there was trouble within the club Angry.
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From Collins to Fenlon to Buckley, they are all able to see.

They can see the number of people attending games and they can see the figures on the contracts of players they sign. Unless they are totally clueless altogether they know how sustainable/unsustainable finances are and they use the "board approved budget" nonsense to burn clubs for their own vainglorious reasons.   
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Originally posted by Xpro Xpro wrote:

"Sham157" - I remember driving up to Monaghan with a few Rovers mates when the Hoops were slumming it in Div 1. Was it Gortakeegan Pk? Anyway the local support was very poor and the away support easily outnumbered them. We amused ourselves by singing: "you`re only here to see the Rovers..." Driving back home, I began to wonder if Monaghan was chosen by the FAI to promote the league in the north east/border region and if so, why had they not looked into the low population base of the area before granting Monaghan a licence?


Yeah Gortakeegan. Shocking home support and the core issue. We formed in 1979 and entered the LOI in 1985. Was only 6 at the time so I know  nothing about why we entered apart from the club wanting to make the step up. We have the population to be sustainable, its just that population couldnt be arsed, and thats something you dont find out until you're up and running. 
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Did they not go under during the Euros? A few away games followed by the break for the championships being the final straw, iirc? Sham should tidy this up

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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

As much as I can appreciate the ire you have for the people of Monaghan not supporting their team, surely you shouldn't be budgeting on potential supporters?
indeed not PM, however clubs have to budget and budget on something realistic, be it the previous seasons attendances for example. When attendances for the 1st division were on some occasions dwarfing attendances when in the PL, then that's were the problems start... 

There were other things as well, which contributed which may sound trivial enough but killed us financially  such as SRFC being scheduled to play on a Tuesday night I think it was and we had one man and his dog there. Then of course there was a period where we had a few weeks of a break and our first game back was away to Sligo. Now, granted things like that shouldn't be making or breaking anything, but on top of everything else, they were shall we say, less than helpful

We where all away on international duty when the news broke that Mons where done...Had they not just played 4 away games in a row? Sham?(for some bizarre reason)
Can't actually remember the sequence of games before hand off the toop of my head but there was a number of away games alright meaning obviously that we had nothing coming in the gate (as little as it would have been anyway) and then the break followed by an away game after the break, while all the time paying the players and overheads. The phoneline was cut off ffs it was that bad.

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Did they not go under during the Euros? A few away games followed by the break for the championships being the final straw, iirc? Sham should tidy this up
Yeah I took a call in Poland sitting on my bed in the room chatting to the lads. 
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Originally posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Did they not go under during the Euros? A few away games followed by the break for the championships being the final straw, iirc? Sham should tidy this up

http://extratime.ie/fixtures/teams/team/11/2012/99999/


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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah Nah wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Did they not go under during the Euros? A few away games followed by the break for the championships being the final straw, iirc? Sham should tidy this up

http://extratime.ie/fixtures/teams/team/11/2012/99999/


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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

As much as I can appreciate the ire you have for the people of Monaghan not supporting their team, surely you shouldn't be budgeting on potential supporters?
indeed not PM, however clubs have to budget and budget on something realistic, be it the previous seasons attendances for example. When attendances for the 1st division were on some occasions dwarfing attendances when in the PL, then that's were the problems start... 

There were other things as well, which contributed which may sound trivial enough but killed us financially  such as SRFC being scheduled to play on a Tuesday night I think it was and we had one man and his dog there. Then of course there was a period where we had a few weeks of a break and our first game back was away to Sligo. Now, granted things like that shouldn't be making or breaking anything, but on top of everything else, they were shall we say, less than helpful


I fully appreciate LoI clubs can only look so far ahead and what not, but relying on a match to match gate is a recipe for disaster. I never understood how their costs rose so quickly following promotion, fair enough they signed a few mediocre players but the wages hardly grew that big? And there was bigger crowds...from memory you couldn't get a sponsor and that was the main issue?
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Agree fully, match to match is not the way to do things, but for some it's the only option. On promotion we had to upgrade certain things, nothing major but it was all done on tick. The whole area from the stand around the back of the goal had to be cleared and brought up to standard etc.. The sponsor was an issue of course, and we had one Lin place in the weeks running up to us pulling out which was vetoed by the FAI. That was the final nail so to speak. Regardless of that, should we have had commanded decent gates we would have survived, and given some of our better results, could have stayed up ahead of Dundalk at the time.
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Agree fully, match to match is not the way to do things, but for some it's the only option. On promotion we had to upgrade certain things, nothing major but it was all done on tick. The whole area from the stand around the back of the goal had to be cleared and brought up to standard etc.. The sponsor was an issue of course, and we had one Lin place in the weeks running up to us pulling out which was vetoed by the FAI. That was the final nail so to speak. Regardless of that, should we have had commanded decent gates we would have survived, and given some of our better results, could have stayed up ahead of Dundalk at the time.
Hummmm vetoed by the FAI you say ,  was it that bunch of solicitors that specialise in graft and corruption by any chance ?
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Originally posted by Claret Murph Claret Murph wrote:

Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:

Agree fully, match to match is not the way to do things, but for some it's the only option. On promotion we had to upgrade certain things, nothing major but it was all done on tick. The whole area from the stand around the back of the goal had to be cleared and brought up to standard etc.. The sponsor was an issue of course, and we had one Lin place in the weeks running up to us pulling out which was vetoed by the FAI. That was the final nail so to speak. Regardless of that, should we have had commanded decent gates we would have survived, and given some of our better results, could have stayed up ahead of Dundalk at the time.
Hummmm vetoed by the FAI you say ,  was it that bunch of solicitors that specialise in graft and corruption by any chance ?
allegedly, possibly,, maybe.....could be etc etc etc
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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:



Yeah Gortakeegan. Shocking home support and the core issue. We formed in 1979 and entered the LOI in 1985. Was only 6 at the time so I know  nothing about why we entered apart from the club wanting to make the step up. We have the population to be sustainable, its just that population couldnt be arsed, and thats something you dont find out until you're up and running

True. Don't know how right it is but I heard before that there was a debt of 6 or 7k at the time. If the community cant gather together to get that type of money to keep things going you know you really are screwed. 


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Originally posted by Sham157 Sham157 wrote:



Yeah Gortakeegan. Shocking home support and the core issue. We formed in 1979 and entered the LOI in 1985. Was only 6 at the time so I know  nothing about why we entered apart from the club wanting to make the step up. We have the population to be sustainable, its just that population couldnt be arsed, and thats something you dont find out until you're up and running

True. Don't know how right it is but I heard before that there was a debt of 6 or 7k at the time. If the community cant gather together to get that type of money to keep things going you know you really are screwed. 
The club requested a stay on monies owed to the FAI. Instead they got a demand for all outstanding moniies to be paid immediately plus sureties. Should have renamed Gortakeegan JD Park.  
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