New Trap concerns

Citizen wrote: El_nino wrote: Citizen wrote: El_nino wrote: Citizen wrote: his constant belittlement of our players is infuriating, is it any wonder the team has no self belief. the FAI need to act now, two good candidates in o'neill and mcdermott available. but they won't as they will wait until this time next year to save on wages any excuse eh!! Saving on wages maybe would be an argument if we were out of the running with no chance of qualifying but we are still bang in it. Fcuk me your posts (along with a few others on here) are becoming extremely boring and predictable.    In the running?!  They waited nearly 5 months the last time and it was to save money.  Don't know what is so funny. Are we not still in the running? An outside chance I agree but we are far from out of it yet. Also the same rag that reported this about Hoolohan also stated that Shane Long for example thought trap was the right man to keep in the job for this campaign. Impossible to have a sensible argument with you as all you will do is resort to calling people clowns. Very childish stuff. yes technically san marino can still get to the playoffs also.   Do you think based on form over the last 10 years we can go to austria and win, and also beat sweden at home. Maybe you think we can do a job on the germans also? Under the current regime we are out of it. If we cannot beat austria at home we do not deserve to go to the World Cup.   re sunday world im sure its a nothing story, not even worth mentioning tbh, my initial post was relating to his constant talking down of our players. Try makng an argument based on substance rather than spouting out childish green tinted platitudes, maybe then i will respect your opinion.

Have you looked at the table!? We are on 8 points (credit to The GerK for pointing this out to me!!) (the same as Sweden who have a game in hand and Austria) granted its an uphill task but Sweden and Austria have to play each other twice and they both also have to play Germany as do we. I wonder are the swedes saying 'if we can't beat Ireland at home we do not deserve to go to the World Cup' and the Germans saying the same about the swedes after letting a 4 goal lead slip at home!? Neither of our rivals for 2nd spot like us have hardly set the world alight in this group to date. For the record I do believe we can go to Austria and win and beat Sweden at home. Alot stranger things have happened and yes I am aware of our form over the past 10 years, 12 months, 2 weeks whatever but you can obviously read into the future and already know for a FACT our fate despite us having 5 games left. I actually pity fans like you who have no belief. The day I stop believing or start thinking we are down and out before a ball is kicked is the day I will stop going to watch Ireland play as IMO I see no point in watching your team if you think like that.


My argument is based on substance and my comments are far from childish. Maybe you should look at your own posts from time to time as you are the one who makes the childish comments and tries to abuse a poster for trying to make an argument/have an opinion.

I couldn't give two fcuks whether you respect my opinion or not, no skin off my nose.

Edited by El_nino - 02 Apr 2013 at 7:00pm

John W wrote: Lenny82 wrote: John W wrote: Wes got changed straight away after the game, didn't go to the mixed zone but straight to the Players Lounge, where he met his family (whom we were sharing a table with). he stayed for an hour and left afterwards, he took photos with fans but was clearly pissed off, after he left a member of his family told me its the last time you'll see him under Trap. Time away from his family with little or no chance of playing and the feeling Trap doesn't rate him was cited as the reasons. I paid no heed to this until this story came about. Hopefully he turns up in June and this is all forgotten about. Of course Hoolahan was pissed off when leaving. We conceded a last minute equaliser. He was hardly going to leave singing Zippa Dee Do Da! and the prize for staing the obvious goes to....

Maybe at the next Hoolahan family gathering you can show Wes my post and have a good laugh about it!

El_nino wrote: Citizen wrote: El_nino wrote: Citizen wrote: El_nino wrote: Citizen wrote: his constant belittlement of our players is infuriating, is it any wonder the team has no self belief. the FAI need to act now, two good candidates in o'neill and mcdermott available. but they won't as they will wait until this time next year to save on wages any excuse eh!! Saving on wages maybe would be an argument if we were out of the running with no chance of qualifying but we are still bang in it. Fcuk me your posts (along with a few others on here) are becoming extremely boring and predictable.    In the running?!  They waited nearly 5 months the last time and it was to save money.  Don't know what is so funny. Are we not still in the running? An outside chance I agree but we are far from out of it yet. Also the same rag that reported this about Hoolohan also stated that Shane Long for example thought trap was the right man to keep in the job for this campaign. Impossible to have a sensible argument with you as all you will do is resort to calling people clowns. Very childish stuff. yes technically san marino can still get to the playoffs also.   Do you think based on form over the last 10 years we can go to austria and win, and also beat sweden at home. Maybe you think we can do a job on the germans also? Under the current regime we are out of it. If we cannot beat austria at home we do not deserve to go to the World Cup.   re sunday world im sure its a nothing story, not even worth mentioning tbh, my initial post was relating to his constant talking down of our players. Try makng an argument based on substance rather than spouting out childish green tinted platitudes, maybe then i will respect your opinion.   Have you looked at the table!? We are on 8 points (credit to The GerK for pointing this out to me!!) (the same as Sweden who have a game in hand and Austria) granted its an uphill task but Sweden and Austria have to play each other twice and they both also have to play Germany as do we. I wonder are the swedes saying 'if we can't beat Ireland at home we do not deserve to go to the World Cup' and the Germans saying the same about the swedes after letting a 4 goal lead slip at home!? Neither of our rivals for 2nd spot like us have hardly set the world alight in this group to date. For the record I do believe we can go to Austria and win and beat Sweden at home. Alot stranger things have happened and yes I am aware of our form over the past 10 years, 12 months, 2 weeks whatever but you can obviously read into the future and already know for a FACT our fate despite us having 5 games left. I actually pity fans like you who have no belief. The day I stop believing or start thinking we are down and out before a ball is kicked is the day I will stop going to watch Ireland play as IMO I see no point in watching your team if you think like that. My argument is based on substance and my comments are far from childish. Maybe you should look at your own posts from time to time as you are the one who makes the childish comments and tries to abuse a poster for trying to make an argument/have an opinion. I couldn't give two fcuks whether you respect my opinion or not, no skin off my nose.

wes  has every reason to be pissed off , how does he feel when he sitting on the bench and the likes of connor sammon on the park for 90 minutes ? ridiculous carry on from our manager 

Citizen wrote: how does sadlier have a chip on his shoulder? he has been spot on to date with his analysis. What time or articles did you expect GUFCT? Did you watch the austrian game?

Sadlier is another Curtis, who says Trap deserves another contract one minute, and then says he should be sacked the next.

He has never coached a team in his life, and his claim to fame is a few minutes playing for McCarthy years ago.

We are level with our opponents with 6 hours of football to be played in the group. Of course we are in the running at this time.

planning wrote: Citizen wrote: how does sadlier have a chip on his shoulder? he has been spot on to date with his analysis. What time or articles did you expect GUFCT? Did you watch the austrian game? Sadlier is another Curtis, who says Trap deserves another contract one minute, and then says he should be sacked the next. He has never coached a team in his life, and his claim to fame is a few minutes playing for McCarthy years ago. We are level with our opponents with 6 hours of football to be played in the group. Of course we are in the running at this time.

http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/success-ends-all-arguments-about-style-and-method-26793924.html

he's not a great writer, most of Sadlier's articles follow the same pattern of a paragraph on recent event in football (bad tackle, dodgy transfer deal, player falling out with manager, etc)
several paragraphs on a similar incident when he was with Millwall, or occasionally St Pat's
and then a conclusion

RogerMilla wrote: planning wrote: http://www.independent.ie/sport/soccer/success-ends-all-arguments-about-style-and-method-26793924.html     he didnt stay on that bandwagon for long     dont think he is a good journalist at all citizen , some good anecdotes from his career in his articles but not a good analyst and is coming across too biased.   see johnny giles analysis on the off the ball podcast this week , tears traps tactics to shreds, just cause i agree with richies conclusions doesnt mean i like his analysis , one trick pony imo.