The ones that got away |
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finnanselbow
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newrynyuk
Liam Brady Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Location: United Kingdom Status: Offline Points: 1558 |
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Dieg O'Maradona?
Seriously. It's all down to a player's personal choice whether he wants to turn out for us, whether they feel a strong enough affinity to Ireland to play.
Also bear in mind if you think the list of the ones that got away is long now; It's not too far fetched to imagine in the not too distant future that there will be players born and raised in Ireland, who played all their football here and went up through the ranks of the under-aged Ireland teams, but in the end deciding to play for Poland, Nigeria etc.
We've benefited in the past from players who were born elsewhere, who have even played international football at junior levels for the country of their birth before declaring for Ireland. So we can complain when the shoe's on the other foot.
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Deco79
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 17 Jan 2010 Location: London Status: Offline Points: 331 |
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my girlfriend is paddys grand daughter... I asked him about being able to play for Ireland and he told me at the time you had to play for the country of birth! he told me he envied shay brennan after him getting capped when the rules changed in the mid 60's after him being capped by Scotland...
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IrwinClass
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 07 Nov 2011 Status: Offline Points: 311 |
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http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/double-caps.html
Examples there of players playing for different countries throughout the entire 20th century. Citizenship was always the key. |
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savo01
Liam Brady Joined: 14 Feb 2013 Location: South Armagh Status: Offline Points: 1902 |
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Danny Murphy
Jamie Carragher (family from Armagh)
I know Michael Owen had Celtic supporting family which may have meant a link.
There's obviously a few Scottish Celts we could have had,
Kevin Gallacher (his Granddad was Celtic legend Patsy Gallacher)
Stephen McManus
Charlie Mulgrew (Trap should have had him as Scotland didn't cap him in his first season back at Celtic)
Phil O'Donnell (RIP)
Simon Donnelly
John Kennedy
Jackie McNamara
While he's never said anything with a name like Micky (Michael) Quinn and coming from Liverpool the former Coventry, Newcastle and Pompey stricker on talksport has to have been Irish!
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Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand
Johnny Giles. Ireland Mick McCarthy, Stephen Staunton Cascarino Tony Galvin, Niall Quinn Packie doesn't let em in North of Ireland South of Ireland Only one can go |
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Newryrep
Paul McGrath Just can't get enough of lists Joined: 14 Jan 2009 Status: Online Points: 15257 |
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'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te
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seanyshuffler
Jack Charlton PM snitch Joined: 09 Jun 2011 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 9538 |
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1.Wayne Rooney
2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23.Martin Keown 24.Chris Armstrong 25.Kevin Gallen 26.Noel Whelan 27.Clint Dempsey 28.Kyle Naughton 29.Conor Dolye 30.Mark Noble 31.Richard Stearman 32.Gary Cahill 33.Zac Knight 34.Dave Kitson 35.Aaron Lennon 36.Ryan Bertrand 37.Martin Kelly 38.Gary McSheffrey 39.Martin O'Neill 40.Pat Jennings 41.Jackie Blanchflower 42.Neil Lennon 43.Corey Evans 44.Johnny Evans 45.George Best 46.Pat Nevin 47.Mal Donaghy 48. 49. 50. 51. 52. 53. 54. 55. 56. 57. 58. 59. 60. 61. Anyone else people can think of
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BoboDub
Liam Brady Joined: 03 Jun 2010 Status: Offline Points: 1034 |
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The NI lads like Lennon didn't really get away - convention at the time was clear.
Brian Labone always said he'd have likely to have played for us (his first wife was form the North Circular Road - would have been eligible under the "Paul Butler" clause) and Peter Reid said he would have played if asked before he got called up for England (massive Irish family). Paul Power waited for a call up for years that never came. His family are all from Waterford. And you can be sure any Ward that played in the English or Scottish Leagues was eligible for Ireland - Mark Ward (now in jail but a fine footballer in his day, and confirmed Irish family in his book (travellers IIRC)), Ashley Ward, Peter Ward, Paul Ward, Gerry Ward all spring to mind. Franny Jeffers was eligible but he told me to f off when I asked him if he was ever thinking of declaring before he got called up for England (he was at Rangers at the time and probably thought I was media looking to stir the sh1t). |
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Clonbhoy
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BoboDub
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He wouldn't have been eligible to play for the IFA given their agreement not to pick players born in England, Wales or Scotland (this agreement lasted until very recently (maybe the Whitley in the late 90s were the first to break convention), which is why Kernaghan played for us).
Other UK and Commonwealth countries, and people born outside GB & NI, who got british passport were fair game though. I think this is why Le Tissier player for England, Van Den Hauwe played for Wales etc. |
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IrwinClass
Kevin Kilbane Joined: 07 Nov 2011 Status: Offline Points: 311 |
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His adopted grandad was from dublin. Similar to Cascarino, although obviously without the subterfuge. |
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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Some Ulster Born Protestants on that list who would probably rather not play international football, if it meant playing with us!
The list is a farce.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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seanyshuffler
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It's a list of people who were eligable to play for Ireland. It's a hypothetical sceanrio.
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schillaci
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Rory McIlroy.
Oh, wait a minute .............
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Charlo
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Steve Froggatt the ex Aston Villa winger
Brian Kilcline the ex Coventry centre back Jamie Smith ex celtic winger Ashley Ward ex Norwich striker Jonjo Shelvey James McPake Vinnie Jones - think he had a grandparent Joe McLaughlin ex Chelsea was going to play for Northern Ireland in 86 WC
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Charlo
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Peter Reid ex Everton........I know his brother Sean played U21s or B
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Charlo
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Andy Linighan and David Linighan (Arsenal & Ipswich the other)
Phil Whelan (Ipswich)
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Charlo
Alan Kernaghan Joined: 20 Oct 2012 Location: Belfast Status: Offline Points: 141 |
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I'm nearly sure Mike Phelan is one who could have also!
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