The ones that got away
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Topic: The ones that got away
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Subject: The ones that got away
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 2:17pm
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With the vast array of second generation Irish that have played for us over they years I was wondering who where the ones that we missed out on. Off the top of my head I can think of, 1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13. 14. 15. 16. 17. 18. * Neill has ancestors from Co.Down so I don't know what the story is there. Can people add names to the list if they think of any...
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Posted By: Borussia
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 2:42pm
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Steven Gerrard. |
Posted By: skylarking
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 2:56pm
| Alfredo di Stefano |
Posted By: wrestler313
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 2:59pm
| Steve Bruce, James Milner, Michael Parkhurst |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:02pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20. 21. 22. 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32.
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Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:05pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23. 24. 25. 26. 27. 28. 29. 30. 31. 32. ------------- All goals, red & yellow cards posted on https://mastodon.ie/@irish_abroad" rel="nofollow - mastodon and https://www.facebook.com/irishfootballstatisics" rel="nofollow - facebook |
Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:12pm
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Martin Keown Che Guevara Lynch |
Posted By: Roberto Baggio
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:14pm
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Chris Armstrong
remember Stan Collymore was linked once, not sure if he qualified?
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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:14pm
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Jose Luis Brown Only Irishman to score in a WC Final. |
Posted By: gufct
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:14pm
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Kevin Gallen
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Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:17pm
| Noel Whelan |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:21pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23.Martin Keown 24.Chris Armstrong 25.Kevin Gallen 26.Noel Whelan 27.Clint Dempsey 28.Kyle Naughton 29.Conor Dolye 30. 31. 32.
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Posted By: horsebox
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:22pm
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Both Martin Keown's parents were Irish. Steve Bruce - parent(s) are from the North. Personally I want to see Irish people playing for Ireland not some player looking to further their career. ------------- It was far across the sea, When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
Posted By: wrestler313
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:24pm
| Conor Doyle and Kyle Naughton |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:26pm
I would be of the same opinion but I was just wondering what players could have played for us
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horsebox wrote:Posted By: Gary McKay
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:43pm
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How is di Stefano on the list and Brown isnt. Jaysus the Blond Arrow played for everyone but Ireland - Argentina, Colombia and Spain. |
Posted By: rainpaulo
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:47pm
| Nolan doesn't qualify to play for Ireland. |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:49pm
| Feel free to copy and paste the list and add to it. |
Posted By: Stoked Up
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:51pm
I thought he does, but he didn't reckon that third generation was enough to make him feel Irish.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 3:59pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23.Martin Keown 24.Chris Armstrong 25.Kevin Gallen 26.Noel Whelan 27.Clint Dempsey 28.Kyle Naughton 29.Conor Dolye 30.Mark Noble 31.Richard Stearman 32.Gary Cahill 33.Zac Knight 34.Dave Kitson 35. 36. 37. 38. 39. 40. 41. 42. 43. 44. 45. 46. 47. 48. 49. 50. |
Posted By: Cabra Hoop
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:08pm
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Tina, her name was. A stunner from Helsinki.
Of course i had to have that extra pint...........  ------------- " BFC always gives me a laugh........ " |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:21pm
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The ones that got away should be players who were considering playing for us, i mean Rio, Anton, Keown etc etc never had any intention of playing for us! Plus there are a few suspect names on there who i'd have my doubts they were eligible to play for us in the first place. As for the likes of Knight, Gallen, Kitson etc etc "getting away" , more like lucky escape for us!! ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:25pm
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Did McStay qualify for us? am sure he did. Martin O Neill, Paddy Jennings, Neil Lennon, Mal Donaghy, Pat Nevin,......... ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:38pm
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George Best,Dannie and Jackie Blanchflower. Johnny Evans ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: t_rAndy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:53pm
Doesn't Keown say he was brought up very Irish and it kind of just a progession that he played for England but he always felt Irish. He would be a player I would say did get away as we probably could have swayed him if we got in early.
Edit: Jack tried to call him up before he played a senior game for England but he had played underage for England and at the time you couldn't switch.
I would imagine the fact that players could not switched back then made us lose out to a lot of players since at the time there would have been many people born around the 60's, 70's and 80's that were 2nd generation Irish. When it gets to 3rd generation the lust to play for us shrinks |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 4:59pm
Yeah he wanted to play for us, was it not something to do with his under age caps with England? His parents are from Fermanagh I believe, does he not visit there fairly often? ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:00pm
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How manyy generations can it go back before you're not eligable? Fabian O'Neill had irish roots
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:01pm
Grandparents. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:02pm
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The relevant current FIFA statute, Article 17: Acquisition of a new nationality, states: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FIFA_eligibility_rules#cite_note-19" rel="nofollow - [19]
------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: tetsujin1979
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:07pm
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:11pm
If I have any kids who are eligible for England they won't be getting any such advice! ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:29pm
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Josimar (Josey Maher)
Begorra (played for Chile in 1982 WC)
Fran
Deco
------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:34pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23.Martin Keown 24.Chris Armstrong 25.Kevin Gallen 26.Noel Whelan 27.Clint Dempsey 28.Kyle Naughton 29.Conor Dolye 30.Mark Noble 31.Richard Stearman 32.Gary Cahill 33.Zac Knight 34.Dave Kitson 35.Josimar (Joesy Maher) 36.Begorra (played for Chile in 1982 WC) 37.Fran 38.Deco 39.Martin O'Neill 40.Pat Jennings 41.Jackie Blanchflower 42.Neil Lennon 43.Corey Evans 44.Johnny Evans 45.George Best 46.Pat Nevin 47.Mal Donaghy 48. 49. 50.
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Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:35pm
Is that the Deco who played for Barca and Chelsea?
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Posted By: FREEWHEELER
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:36pm
Yeah, those 4 had to be have Paddy blood with names like that. ------------- We'll never die, we'll never die, we'll keep the Green Flag flying high......Shamrock Rovers will never die, we'll keep the Green Flag Flying high. 19 Leagues and 25 Cups..... |
Posted By: Blue Man
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:38pm
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Wasn't Steve Bruce more or less told by Fergie to declare for England as at the time, you could only have 3 "foreigners" in European competition and United already had Schmeichael, Cantona and Keane? ------------- "Everytime Leeds concede a goal, its like being stabbed in the heart" - Billy Bremner Gary Speed 1969-2011 YBIG Blind Date Champion 2010 |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:39pm
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Jacie but not Danny Blanchflower? Mark Beeney ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 5:44pm
Jesus Id have never thought that from a royalist like yourself  ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: rossieman
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 6:31pm
Bruce never got an England cap.He played one B game. |
Posted By: Blue Man
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:08pm
Yea but back then, a B or under 21 cap meant you couldn't switch. I thought thats what the story was anyway. Open to correction of course ------------- "Everytime Leeds concede a goal, its like being stabbed in the heart" - Billy Bremner Gary Speed 1969-2011 YBIG Blind Date Champion 2010 |
Posted By: engpad
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:40pm
| Aaron Lennon, Ryan Bertrand & Matt Kilgallon |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:45pm
bertrand? ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: sledgehammer
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:50pm
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The Bruce story was, he was contacted by Charlton pre USA 1994. He was all set to declare and Ferguson stopped it as he felt Bruce needed to recover over the Summer due to his age. Bruce then turned it down as he felt it would stop him getting a contract renewel for the following year. Read this at the time Alex Bruce declared for us ------------- Up there for thinking. Down there for dancing |
Posted By: JAVIER
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:57pm
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fabian o`neill you lost him , good playmaker., g martin o`neill, gerrard rooney and neill lennon , the most significant from the roster |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 7:58pm
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Fabian O'Neill did not qualify. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: engpad
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:08pm
yep
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Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:09pm
how so? ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: El_nino
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:13pm
Franco Di Santo 
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Posted By: kevincronin2000
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:15pm
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Beni McCarthy ------------- time is the stuff that life is made of, don't waste it. |
Posted By: engpad
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:18pm
 FAI chased him when he was out on loan at various points but he was fast-tracked by the FA into the u21s then into the senior England team (main reason why they gave him a cap in the qualifier against Ukraine) |
Posted By: mccarticus
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 8:36pm
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Pat crerand darren fletcher gary mcsheffrey ------------- Sheedy wins it back, Sheedy shoots.... |
Posted By: deise316
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:01pm
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Franck Quedrue....... ------------- Picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue..... |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:06pm
Pat crerand never qualified to play for us, despite both his parents being Irish. FIFA law at the time was you had to be born in the country or live in it for two, I think, years. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:06pm
Was looking at him earlier think he was a generation to late. Could be wrong though. |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:06pm
never knew that, he was clearly interested then? Shame. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:07pm
It was his great grandparent! ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: danger here
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:08pm
| Rick O'Shea, the infamous Zambian centre back who scored a world record number of OGs in a season |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:09pm
Yeah, same as Di Santo too I think. And Mark Beeney. Beeney could have been amazing for us. ------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:15pm
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Not sure is clint dempsey third or fourth so. Brian mcbride was he another? Will edit the list tomorrow or if someone wants to do it then be my guest |
Posted By: McG
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:19pm
Doubt he would have got much of a look in tbh. ------------- YBIG Table Quiz winner 2016 & 2017 AS YOU WERE McGx |
Posted By: gwhite
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:20pm
He does actually, at least now. When Stan was sniffing around for him he'd played for the England U-21's and wasn't eligible but after the the rule change he became eligible. I always thought he'd be a useful addition but his heart wasn't in it and it's too late now anyway. |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 9:34pm
I would seriously doubt it, the foremost qualification criteria for eligibility now is nationality as determined by the constituent country not country of birth, I would be surpised if it was any different then. All changes,tweeks etc stem from this basic concept 'if you have a countries nationality you can play for them'
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Posted By: skylarking
Date Posted: 07 Mar 2013 at 11:15pm
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Wasn't Steve McManaman eligible? Diego Forlan, don't know how far back his Irish roots go (also, source not cited) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Uruguayan I can't remember if it was tabloid hallucinations or if he said it himself, but Sean Dundee was eligible. His wiki page doesn't mention anything though. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:35am
which has to be the biggest load of cock i ever heard in my life, sickening attitude
 i thought keowns parents were both from connemara, native irish speakers and keown can speak it as well, i read this in an interview in the sunday indo a fair few years back.
------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:38am
 FFS seany ------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:47am
I'll admit it I went looking to see if I could find anything on them. 
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Posted By: skylarking
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:57am
How so? It seems like a completely reasonable attitude to have. Playing for the country of your birth and immigrant parents having respect for the country which welcomed them. In the not too distant future, when the Irish team has players whose parents hail from Eastern Europe, Africa or South America but were born and raised in Ireland, will you be sickened by the sight of them in the green jersey? Also, the fact that Keown's parents were native Irish speakers is utterly irrelevant. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:07am
skylarking , the thoughts of my kids playing for any team other than ireland sickens me , i would support them if they did it but it would really be hard to take.
i am an ireland fan and will be delighted if the oyobanjos and podolskis and st. John Smythes line out for us , i will also understand if they chose to line out for poland england or nigeria though as well.
keowns parents come across like complete uncle toms to me " oh thank you england for giving us jobs and a house " how welcomed was he ? did he not have to scrap like every other paddy over there? was it not his skills that got him the job, his savings that paid for his house ? it wasnt charity thats for sure.
now i dont know the people and if they are galway people then they are probably good stick but the attitude is beyond me , cant fathom it at all.
------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: finnanselbow
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:08am
| Paul Gascoigne |
Posted By: Drumcondra 69er
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:08am
More likely due to the fact that we had Lawrenson, O'Leary, McGrath, Moran and McCarthy in that position when Keown was coming through, England didn't have anywhere near that level of quality at centre half when Keown got picked for their underage teams and once he'd played for them that was it. There was a big gap between his underage caps and making the full squad, may well have switched in this day and age. Think he only ended up getting picked due to Mark Wright getting injured and Wright wouldn't have made our team at the time. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:08am
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*good stock ------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: RogerMilla
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:09am
yeah he said on the late late he was qualifed,
beckham told my mates mother he was qualifed for ireland as well
------------- The first time the Devil made me do it. The second time I did it on my own. |
Posted By: finnanselbow
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 9:12am
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Posted By: newrynyuk
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 10:46am
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Dieg O'Maradona?
Seriously. It's all down to a player's personal choice whether he wants to turn out for us, whether they feel a strong enough affinity to Ireland to play.
Also bear in mind if you think the list of the ones that got away is long now; It's not too far fetched to imagine in the not too distant future that there will be players born and raised in Ireland, who played all their football here and went up through the ranks of the under-aged Ireland teams, but in the end deciding to play for Poland, Nigeria etc.
We've benefited in the past from players who were born elsewhere, who have even played international football at junior levels for the country of their birth before declaring for Ireland. So we can complain when the shoe's on the other foot.
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Posted By: Deco79
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 1:21pm
| my girlfriend is paddys grand daughter... I asked him about being able to play for Ireland and he told me at the time you had to play for the country of birth! he told me he envied shay brennan after him getting capped when the rules changed in the mid 60's after him being capped by Scotland... |
Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:17pm
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http://www.rsssf.com/miscellaneous/double-caps.html Examples there of players playing for different countries throughout the entire 20th century. Citizenship was always the key. |
Posted By: savo01
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:35pm
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Danny Murphy
Jamie Carragher (family from Armagh)
I know Michael Owen had Celtic supporting family which may have meant a link.
There's obviously a few Scottish Celts we could have had,
Kevin Gallacher (his Granddad was Celtic legend Patsy Gallacher)
Stephen McManus
Charlie Mulgrew (Trap should have had him as Scotland didn't cap him in his first season back at Celtic)
Phil O'Donnell (RIP)
Simon Donnelly
John Kennedy
Jackie McNamara
While he's never said anything with a name like Micky (Michael) Quinn and coming from Liverpool the former Coventry, Newcastle and Pompey stricker on talksport has to have been Irish! ------------- Jackie Charlton, Eoin Hand Johnny Giles. Ireland Mick McCarthy, Stephen Staunton Cascarino Tony Galvin, Niall Quinn Packie doesn't let em in North of Ireland South of Ireland Only one can go |
Posted By: Newryrep
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 3:59pm
------------- 'Irish' Songs for an Irish team - no SPL EPL generic sh*te Richard Dunne - 6th Sept 11 - best marshalling of a defence in Moscow since General Zukov Russia V Germany 1941 |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 4:00pm
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1.Wayne Rooney 2.Rio Ferdinand 3.Anton Ferdinand 4.Jamie O'Hara 5.Kevin Nolan 6.Kieran Richardson 7.Tim Cahill 8.Lucas Neill * 9.Lee Trundle 10.Landon Donovan 11.Darren Fletcher 12.Kevin Keegan 13.Steven Gerrard 14.Steve Bruce 15.Gareth Barry 16.James Milner 17.Paul Scholes 18.Micheal Packhurst 19.Alfredo di Stefano 20.John O'Brien (USA, used to play for Ajax) 21.Michael Keane 22.Jimmy Greaves 23.Martin Keown 24.Chris Armstrong 25.Kevin Gallen 26.Noel Whelan 27.Clint Dempsey 28.Kyle Naughton 29.Conor Dolye 30.Mark Noble 31.Richard Stearman 32.Gary Cahill 33.Zac Knight 34.Dave Kitson 35.Aaron Lennon 36.Ryan Bertrand 37.Martin Kelly 38.Gary McSheffrey 39.Martin O'Neill 40.Pat Jennings 41.Jackie Blanchflower 42.Neil Lennon 43.Corey Evans 44.Johnny Evans 45.George Best 46.Pat Nevin 47.Mal Donaghy 48. 49. 50. 51. 52. 53. 54. 55. 56. 57. 58. 59. 60. 61. Anyone else people can think of
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Posted By: BoboDub
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 5:20pm
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The NI lads like Lennon didn't really get away - convention at the time was clear. Brian Labone always said he'd have likely to have played for us (his first wife was form the North Circular Road - would have been eligible under the "Paul Butler" clause) and Peter Reid said he would have played if asked before he got called up for England (massive Irish family). Paul Power waited for a call up for years that never came. His family are all from Waterford. And you can be sure any Ward that played in the English or Scottish Leagues was eligible for Ireland - Mark Ward (now in jail but a fine footballer in his day, and confirmed Irish family in his book (travellers IIRC)), Ashley Ward, Peter Ward, Paul Ward, Gerry Ward all spring to mind. Franny Jeffers was eligible but he told me to f off when I asked him if he was ever thinking of declaring before he got called up for England (he was at Rangers at the time and probably thought I was media looking to stir the sh1t). |
Posted By: Clonbhoy
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 5:39pm
------------- A man can have no greater love than give 90 minutes to his friends. @withgodlygrace |
Posted By: BoboDub
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 6:25pm
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He wouldn't have been eligible to play for the IFA given their agreement not to pick players born in England, Wales or Scotland (this agreement lasted until very recently (maybe the Whitley in the late 90s were the first to break convention), which is why Kernaghan played for us). Other UK and Commonwealth countries, and people born outside GB & NI, who got british passport were fair game though. I think this is why Le Tissier player for England, Van Den Hauwe played for Wales etc. |
Posted By: IrwinClass
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 6:36pm
His adopted grandad was from dublin. Similar to Cascarino, although obviously without the subterfuge. |
Posted By: Green Devil
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 6:59pm
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Some Ulster Born Protestants on that list who would probably rather not play international football, if it meant playing with us! The list is a farce. ------------- "He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland," Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
Posted By: seanyshuffler
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 7:30pm
It's a list of people who were eligable to play for Ireland. It's a hypothetical sceanrio.
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Posted By: schillaci
Date Posted: 08 Mar 2013 at 8:33pm
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Rory McIlroy. Oh, wait a minute .............
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Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 2:09am
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Steve Froggatt the ex Aston Villa winger Brian Kilcline the ex Coventry centre back Jamie Smith ex celtic winger Ashley Ward ex Norwich striker Jonjo Shelvey James McPake Vinnie Jones - think he had a grandparent Joe McLaughlin ex Chelsea was going to play for Northern Ireland in 86 WC
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Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 2:11am
| Peter Reid ex Everton........I know his brother Sean played U21s or B |
Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 5:55am
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Andy Linighan and David Linighan (Arsenal & Ipswich the other) Phil Whelan (Ipswich)
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Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 6:01am
| I'm nearly sure Mike Phelan is one who could have also! |
Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 6:04am
| Shane Lowry of Millwall - think he turned his back on Ireland after U21s and back with his native Australia |
Posted By: Charlo
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 6:07am
| Andy Lonergan the goalkeeper |
Posted By: mccarticus
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 8:00am
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Didnt Steve Coppell say he was eligibe at one stage? When.he was over reading iirc? ------------- Sheedy wins it back, Sheedy shoots.... |
Posted By: Long Shot
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 8:38am
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Pretty sure I jeard that Danny Cadamartri was eligible for us once upon a time and jon joe Shelvey
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Posted By: Deco79
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 10:54am
| Kerry Dixon... |
Posted By: mccarticus
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 10:59am
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Marlon king ------------- Sheedy wins it back, Sheedy shoots.... |
Posted By: irishmufc
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 11:05am
I posted that a couple of months ago and there was a poster saying i was wrong. He said it in his autobiography ------------- Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been. |
Posted By: The Wild Rover
Date Posted: 10 Mar 2013 at 12:11pm
| Micky Quinn did not qualify for us....Jack did try to get him.. His great grandparents were Irish!! Heard Joey Barton qualifies for us |
Posted By: Fitz
Date Posted: 24 Mar 2013 at 3:21am
Hear, f**king hear. ------------- 
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Posted By: WindBag
Date Posted: 27 Mar 2013 at 5:11pm
| Che Guevara |