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Originally posted by BigStrongMan BigStrongMan wrote:

Both average stadiums IMO
Both could have been so much better


In what way, I like that croke park has terrace but my ideal one would be like Dortmunds one.
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Aviva not tight enough for my liking. Actually I dont like Lansdowne at all. I hate them white pipes under the roof. It looks crap and the north stand is pathetic.  The corporate section is way too big and its a soulless stadium.


Where do you want us to play our games? Richmond Park? You'll be on top of the pitch, they'll need about 10 balls to finish the game, but one end is called "the shed", with half the roof of it demolished. You'll fork €15 out to stand in that tip every time.

We pay fair prices to go to Lansdowne, we deserve some comfort for it. It won't be "soulless" for the Poland game, but rather too much "Polska BC" Confused for my liking.
 
I think the design could have been much better. For starters the stands are still too far from the pitch imo, the north end is sh*te and them white pipes look horrendous and blocks the spectators view of other fans.  The corporate section is too big.  I have been in the Millenium stadium and that is much much better. Its tight and the atmosphere is way better. We should have built a smaller version, 40,000 capacity stadium with fook all corporate seats (ideally none) and have it built with atmosphere in mind. The aviva was built for rugby to be honest.  Very big corporate sectors, with business in mind not atmosphere.  Someone said the aviva was built to have good acoustics. Thats a load of rubbish. You cant hear the PA for god's sake and the atmosphere is shocking. As someone said the lower terraces could have been made a bit steeper. It's a functional arena thats all that can be said for it. Might win awards for architecture but it wont win any rewards on or off the pitch for atmosphere. 
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Both average stadiums IMO
Both could have been so much better
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Originally posted by flick flick wrote:

I think the atmosphere at the Italy qualifier and France playoffs were better than any atmosphere at Lansdowne


France probably best I've ever seen
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Aviva not tight enough for my liking. Actually I dont like Lansdowne at all. I hate them white pipes under the roof. It looks crap and the north stand is pathetic.  The corporate section is way too big and its a soulless stadium.


Where do you want us to play our games? Richmond Park? You'll be on top of the pitch, they'll need about 10 balls to finish the game, but one end is called "the shed", with half the roof of it demolished. You'll fork €15 out to stand in that tip every time.

We pay fair prices to go to Lansdowne, we deserve some comfort for it. It won't be "soulless" for the Poland game, but rather too much "Polska BC" Confused for my liking.


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I think the atmosphere at the Italy qualifier and France playoffs were better than any atmosphere at Lansdowne
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They're both great for what they are intended for (ie Croker great for GAA, crap for football; Aviva great for football, crap for NFL). I think the aviva feels a little "cheaper" (seats/stairs/bars) than Croker, but being closer to the action is a big plus. The atmosphere in both is great if the action on the field is living up to it.

Wouldn't have any problem with the location of either, plenty of boozers around both.

Feckin delighted I live in a city with these two magnificant stadia

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by theheff1989 theheff1989 wrote:

Originally posted by MaradonaSeven MaradonaSeven wrote:


Originally posted by theheff1989 theheff1989 wrote:

What are the pros and cons of both stadiums. Pros of Croke park are capacity although rarely full, a terrace, big area were food and drinks are. Cons: location not much around there. <FONT #000000??>Lack of atmosphere.

Aviva: cons Lower tiers not steep enough, too many preminum seats, area were food and drink is to pokey.
Pros: close to the pitch ,signing section



Ever been an all-Ireland final day. Croke Park wasnt the reason there was no atmosphere. sh*te attendances were.


Been to good few hurling ones. And the two hurling final this year had good athmosphere, especially the Galway fans. But I fell Croke Paek too big for an atmosphere to develop.




 

Great set of lads those guys are Between themselves and Kilkenny they brought 22,000 to the Leinster final. 


I was at that too Wexford minors playing that day. The crowd was desperate. The bandwagoners fans then Baldrick.
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Originally posted by rossieman rossieman wrote:

When you compare lanesdown Rd or Croker to the millennium stadium they are very poor. Millennium stadium cost about half what lanesdown rd cost.


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I'm guessing Dublin is the only city in the world that has two potentially world class stadiums within a few km's of each other, but both can't be completed because of resident issues with light?

Landsdowne cons: it looks like a bed pan.
Landsdowne pros: it's home, and hallowed ground.

Croker cons: risk of being murdered.
Croker pros: can't think of any.
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What was the difference in average wages between when the Millenium and the New Lansdowne was built. 
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When you compare lanesdown Rd or Croker to the millennium stadium they are very poor. Millennium stadium cost about half what lanesdown rd cost.
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Originally posted by theheff1989 theheff1989 wrote:

Originally posted by MaradonaSeven MaradonaSeven wrote:


Originally posted by theheff1989 theheff1989 wrote:

What are the pros and cons of both stadiums. Pros of Croke park are capacity although rarely full, a terrace, big area were food and drinks are. Cons: location not much around there. Lack of atmosphere.

Aviva: cons Lower tiers not steep enough, too many preminum seats, area were food and drink is to pokey.
Pros: close to the pitch ,signing section



Ever been an all-Ireland final day. Croke Park wasnt the reason there was no atmosphere. sh*te attendances were.


Been to good few hurling ones. And the two hurling final this year had good athmosphere, especially the Galway fans. But I fell Croke Paek too big for an atmosphere to develop.
 
Great set of lads those guys are Between themselves and Kilkenny they brought 22,000 to the Leinster final. 
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Originally posted by Shebber Shebber wrote:

Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Croke Park pitch too big and not suitable for football really.  Aviva not tight enough for my liking. Actually I dont like Lansdowne at all. I hate them white pipes under the roof. It looks crap and the north stand is pathetic.  The corporate section is way too big and its a soulless stadium.
 
 
+ 1. Why can't we build and complete a proper stadium in this country.

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Originally posted by MaradonaSeven MaradonaSeven wrote:


Originally posted by theheff1989 theheff1989 wrote:

What are the pros and cons of both stadiums. Pros of Croke park are capacity although rarely full, a terrace, big area were food and drinks are. Cons: location not much around there. Lack of atmosphere.

Aviva: cons Lower tiers not steep enough, too many preminum seats, area were food and drink is to pokey.
Pros: close to the pitch ,signing section



Ever been an all-Ireland final day. Croke Park wasnt the reason there was no atmosphere. sh*te attendances were.


Been to good few hurling ones. And the two hurling final this year had good athmosphere, especially the Galway fans. But I fell Croke Paek too big for an atmosphere to develop.
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

Croke Park pitch too big and not suitable for football really.  Aviva not tight enough for my liking. Actually I dont like Lansdowne at all. I hate them white pipes under the roof. It looks crap and the north stand is pathetic.  The corporate section is way too big and its a soulless stadium.
 
 
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Croke Park pitch too big and not suitable for football really.  Aviva not tight enough for my liking. Actually I dont like Lansdowne at all. I hate them white pipes under the roof. It looks crap and the north stand is pathetic.  The corporate section is way too big and its a soulless stadium.
 
 
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Originally posted by darmack darmack wrote:

Year before last, after a Dubs game I saw some knacker cycled up beside some guy on his phone and swiped it right out of his hand.

Croker after a game you'd have to go back into town for pints. A few more options around Lansdowne.

plenty of places to drink around croker .drank in a good few pubs around there before and after games and never had any hassle.
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