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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

There's no way to judge if it was a form of protest or not but rest assured the pro church people and upset people will always say it was the non attending people that took all the tickets regardless of the attendance.
 
Exactly - they have been provided with a ready made excuse. It would have been a lot more interesting to do the crazy thing of just allowing people who want to go to get on with it, whilst those that didn't wish to attend did so without impacting upon others.
 
And why do you believe it is laughable that people who wanted to attend couldn't?
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Claiming it's a poor form of protest is actually laughable and the line about robbing someone else of the opportunity to see the pope is equally as funny.
 
Would you be kind enough to elaborate on either of those two points?
 
Going by your previous posts on this thread you also appear to be confused yourself in respect to whether it should be judged a successful protest or not.
 
There's no way to judge if it was a form of protest or not but rest assured the pro church people and upset people will always say it was the non attending people that took all the tickets regardless of the attendance.
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Claiming it's a poor form of protest is actually laughable and the line about robbing someone else of the opportunity to see the pope is equally as funny.
 
Would you be kind enough to elaborate on either of those two points?
 
Going by your previous posts on this thread you also appear to be confused yourself in respect to whether it should be judged a successful protest or not.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Even in one word posts your language is full of childish Americanisms!LOL 

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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Its a bitter and obsessed form of protest. If you've no interest in religion, the church or the Pope just forget about them and get on with your life.
Exactly! All mass murder, paedophilia and child abuse should be ignored. People are far too sensitive these days.


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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Claiming it's a poor form of protest is actually laughable and the line about robbing someone else of the opportunity to see the pope is equally as funny.

It’s actually not laughable. Would the people have engaged if they had to pay money for the tickets?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Even in one word posts your language is full of childish Americanisms!LOL 

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Even in one word posts your language is full of childish Americanisms!LOL 

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Its a bitter and obsessed form of protest. If you've no interest in religion, the church or the Pope just forget about them and get on with your life.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

As I said, I didn't read them. When you are using phrases like that then  I would be certain the points were far from substantive. 

Whatever.
Even in one word posts your language is full of childish Americanisms!LOL 
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Claiming it's a poor form of protest is actually laughable and the line about robbing someone else of the opportunity to see the pope is equally as funny.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

As I said, I didn't read them. When you are using phrases like that then  I would be certain the points were far from substantive. 

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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

PM, why not just argue the substantive points I made rather than getting annoyed at the words I used?

As I said, I didn't read them. When you are using phrases like that then  I would be certain the points were far from substantive. 
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PM, why not just argue the substantive points I made rather than getting annoyed at the words I used?
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

 
It's farcical because it is a supremely lazy form of protest that in effect does little more than rob the opportunity to attend from someone else.
 
What is the goal in 'making it look a lot worse on the church' exactly? They do plenty enough of that themselves!
 
The last time the pope visited Ireland homosexuality was illegal here. We've now recently passed the marriage referendum and liberalised our abortion laws so it's patently clear the church doesn't have anywhere near the influence it once did.
 
Perhaps I'm not in the majority in my view but just thought it was a silly protest that achieved very little. In fact even referring to it as a 'protest' is pushing it a bit.

I think you are in the majority. The vast majority of people I spoke to saw it as lazy virtue signalling 
Got as far as there. What sort of a **** uses the term 'virtue signalling'? 
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

Ahhh, the aul worrying what the rest of the world thinks of us issue once again. Even if that was a concern for anyone the recent referendums should have made it very clear to all that we have thankfully moved away from the clutches of the RCC.
Living abroad, I do. The Roman Empire is our biggest embarrassment, anything we can do to undermine them has my full support.
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Originally posted by Devrozex Devrozex wrote:

 
It's farcical because it is a supremely lazy form of protest that in effect does little more than rob the opportunity to attend from someone else.
 
What is the goal in 'making it look a lot worse on the church' exactly? They do plenty enough of that themselves!
 
The last time the pope visited Ireland homosexuality was illegal here. We've now recently passed the marriage referendum and liberalised our abortion laws so it's patently clear the church doesn't have anywhere near the influence it once did.
 
Perhaps I'm not in the majority in my view but just thought it was a silly protest that achieved very little. In fact even referring to it as a 'protest' is pushing it a bit.

I think you are in the majority. The vast majority of people I spoke to saw it as lazy virtue signalling as opposed to any form of protest, or rememberance. It was free, you didn’t need to go anywhere, and you could get your Facebook kudos along the way.

Like I said, people can’t have it both ways. Either you acknowledge the protest was a success, and in turn acknowledge that it had a genuine impact on the numbers, thus preventing us from knowing exactly how many would have otherwise turned up. Or, the protest had no meaningful impact, and as such it was a small and lazy effort at virtue signalling, which has little impact on anything.
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Ahhh, the aul worrying what the rest of the world thinks of us issue once again. Even if that was a concern for anyone the recent referendums should have made it very clear to all that we have thankfully moved away from the clutches of the RCC.
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