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morgan replies: Shall we split it? Looks like we could both do with one
 
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Paddy barnes LOL


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i refuse to follow morgan as i cannot stand him , i also ask people not to retweet his rubbish as well,
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Good man BaldrickHug

Now, back to topic, Morgan uses twitter to his advantage. My problem with twitter is people who follow people just to abuse them, don't follow them if you think that person is a ****. Never get that mindset with some people.
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Not at all, I had forgotton I had I posted that silly comment about the board and it not going to happen. 

 
I don't believe in making definitive statements about the future and that was a stupid one on my part.  My view is that its unlikely to happen and it would be silly and stupid by anyone and I include myself in this to same it would never happen. 
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This debate is bullsh*t. It's up to each individual athlete how they react, it's nothing to do with nationality. Where is the evidence that Chris Hoy didn't sing GSTQ because he's Scottish? From where I was watching he didn't sing because he was too overcome with emotion. Bradey Wiggens didn't sing it, is that because he's an English nationalist?

Piers Morgans is an utter ****, and a supreme WUM, and most of all a massive self publicist. If he wanted to make a donation to Great Ormond St he could have done so without drawing attention to himself. Who the f**k is he to decide how someone who has dedicated years of their life to winning gold should react when they finally win?

Katie Taylor didn't sing, does that make her less Irish?

Anyway if you were to follow protocol then not singing is the correct reaction.

Morgan should be in prison not spouting sh*t on Twitter or CNN.
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Was that so hard?!
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Originally posted by seaniemac seaniemac wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I said its unlikely to happen.   There is a difference between saying something is never going to happen and saying something is unlikely to happen.  What you said - (its not going to happen as they control the board) How is that saying it's unlikely to happen?! That's saying it's not going to happen.
 
I think its unlikely to happen that the FIFA Executive will end the special position that the UK countries hold within FIFA but its not impossible and I would not dare suggest it will never happen especially with the relationship between the FA and the rest of FIFA. 
See my point above, you quite clearly did say it's not going to happen so you are contradicting yourself!
 
I have not dismissed any comments, I have my opinion and you have yours. You are totally entitled to take up your opinion and I would fight for the right for you to make your opinion freely.  
 
I tend not to agree with some of it, but thats hardly revolutionary on an forum for a difference of opinion. This is the part where you're coming across as condescending. I have the brain cells to understand it's a forum and people have different opinions, you have intelligent people like yourself and thicks like Ger, I'm not debating that point. I am debating that you told me it's silly to say it's not going to happen when you yourself said it earlier and you are now, quite remarkably, denying you said it when I've pointed it out twice to you.
 
On the indpendence thing, I am speed typing so its just a typo,  sorry about that.  I will make sure and will do my best not to make that mistake again.   But I cannot guarantee it.  
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I have since learned that my original point is incorrect and they may control the board but they do not control the executive. 
 
So I agree that is a  contradiction, and I withdraw my original comments than it is not going to happen because they control the board as I was wrong there. 
 
I should not have made that point about the board and it not going to happen, it was a throwaway comment that I did give due diligence to. 
 
Any time I have met Gerk he comes across as a smart guy.    I would not rate myself at all in the intelligence field and feel that I need further work on this area as my above misake proves. 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

 
I think its unlikely to happen that the FIFA Executive will end the special position that the UK countries hold within FIFA but its not impossible and I would not dare suggest it will never happen especially with the relationship between the FA and the rest of FIFA. 
 
 
 
well its some jump from that to being the defining event in the breakup of the united kingdom .
 
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

I said its unlikely to happen.   There is a difference between saying something is never going to happen and saying something is unlikely to happen.  What you said - (its not going to happen as they control the board) How is that saying it's unlikely to happen?! That's saying it's not going to happen.
 
I think its unlikely to happen that the FIFA Executive will end the special position that the UK countries hold within FIFA but its not impossible and I would not dare suggest it will never happen especially with the relationship between the FA and the rest of FIFA. 
See my point above, you quite clearly did say it's not going to happen so you are contradicting yourself!
 
I have not dismissed any comments, I have my opinion and you have yours. You are totally entitled to take up your opinion and I would fight for the right for you to make your opinion freely.  
 
I tend not to agree with some of it, but thats hardly revolutionary on an forum for a difference of opinion. This is the part where you're coming across as condescending. I have the brain cells to understand it's a forum and people have different opinions, you have intelligent people like yourself and thicks like Ger, I'm not debating that point. I am debating that you told me it's silly to say it's not going to happen when you yourself said it earlier and you are now, quite remarkably, denying you said it when I've pointed it out twice to you.
 
On the indpendence thing, I am speed typing so its just a typo,  sorry about that.  I will make sure and will do my best not to make that mistake again.   But I cannot guarantee it.  
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I said its unlikely to happen.   There is a difference between saying something is never going to happen and saying something is unlikely to happen. 
 
I think its unlikely to happen that the FIFA Executive will end the special position that the UK countries hold within FIFA but its not impossible and I would not dare suggest it will never happen especially with the relationship between the FA and the rest of FIFA. 
 
 
 
I have not dismissed any comments, I have my opinion and you have yours. You are totally entitled to take up your opinion and I would fight for the right for you to make your opinion freely.  
 
I tend not to agree with some of it, but thats hardly revolutionary on an forum for a difference of opinion. 
 
On the indpendence thing, I am speed typing so its just a typo,  sorry about that.  I will make sure and will do my best not to make that mistake again.   But I cannot guarantee it.  
 
 


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Baldrick, you dismiss my comments by saying it's silly to say things like it will never happen and it's unlikely to happen is a much more sensible and accurate thing to say to be honest when you yourself said it's not going to happen. That's a contradiction and condescending.

I'm not talking about the executive, I'm talking about how you dismiss my comments when it's exactly the same thing that you said in an earlier post. You can't have it both ways.

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Originally posted by Clonbhoy Clonbhoy wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by MaradonaSeven MaradonaSeven wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Don't compete and stand by your principals. 

Many an athlete has boycotted things due to their principals. 
 
As I said people can't have it both ways.
 
They can't be Scottish or Welsh nationalists but still take the money as part of the UK or Team GB or whatever they want to call it. 
 
Hoy gets the benefit of the Manchester set up. If he was Scottish competing for Scotland he may not get such infrastructure.
 
What, like roads and bridges and the likes??
 
Eh the Manchester Velodrome is a perfect example of such infrastrucuture. 
 
Its double standards lads.  
 
You can sleight the idea of Britishness and then benefit from it. 
 
I have had good chats with lads who are in the SNP about this and they all agree.  If you do not believe in the idea of Britishness then vote with your feet, its the only way to bring about the independence of Scotland. 
 
Having feet in both camps is a cop out.
But they pay for Manchester. The money comes from the UK wide  lottery fund and from government funding via taxes. Therefore the Scots/Welsh/NI have every right to do so. If they were nationalist they would probably believe they have more than a right to claim back what their fellow countrymen have paid for
 
 
They do have every right to use it as it is, but if they were an independent country like Ireland, they would nnot have such a facility because the economy of scale allows them access to greater facilities under the UK than they would have under and Indpendent Scotland.  This is my whole point They are having their cake and eating it.  You cannot be a Scottish nationalist and refuse the idea of Britishness but take advantage of the economy of scale benefits that come from being part of a greater population mass without being accused of double standards.  That is the crucial point to the whole thing. 
 
Scottish athletes have greater access to better facilities than Irish athletes do because they are part of this bigger enttiy. 
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I like Piers. Always praising the Irish on twitter too. And  fair play for the donation
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Originally posted by seaniemac seaniemac wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Its silly to say things like it will never happen
 
People said that about the many things that have proven to happen. 
 
Its unlikely to happen is a much more sensible and accurate thing to say to be honest.  
 
It is possible that some of these countries may get pissed off with the UK countries and table a motion. I would never like to guess the behaviour of the FIFA Executive. 


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The best thing that could happen the Scottish Indpendence movement is that FIFA make all 4 countries play as 1 (its not going to happen as they control the board) but it would be one way of guaranteeing a yes vote in the Indpendence referendum.

Agree with RM, normally you talk sense but in this you are coming across all wrong and also condescending to be honest with you.
Do they control the exectutive though, and if the change is made is it made by the executive or the board.  

Again I am not saying this is likely or iminent but its not impossible and to say things will never happen is extremly naive considering what history teaches us about suprising things happen.  
 
My above post says it but basically in a tight referendum vote which it will be, little things can make all the difference. 
 
An abolition of their national team could and in my opinion would be the kick up the hole some of the undecideds need to vote for indpendnce rather than not even turn up to vote. 
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Originally posted by RogerMilla RogerMilla wrote:

Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Roger you are making feck all contributions to this except pulling quotes out.  Anyway my post above explains that view point. 
 
As I said the undecideds are going to determin the result of the referendum in a few years if they were faced with their abolishing of their football team which technically should happen, however FIFA make an exception whereas the Olympica movement do not, that would be the case. 
 
what contribution are you making except to propose that the people of scotland the vast percentage of whom dont even follow football would be willing to mortgage their countries future due to a prospective FIFA edict , you are talking uttter sh*te baldrick  Sleepy
 
 
 
Again the straw man technique that is not what i said. 
 
Roughly the polls are about 60/40 in favour of the union at the moment.  There is a decent amount of undecideds in Scotland.  
What I am saying is that some of those undecideds would move over to the pro indpendence side if remaining in the Union meant the abolition of their football team. 
 
You just have to look at silly things like the rise in indpendence support after Braveheart was released.  The problem with a lot of political theory is that it presumes people always vote logical with all the facts in front of them, whereas various referenda do not suggest that at all and some decisions can be based on fairly whimsical basis.  Reaad the thread on the latest EU referendum here in Ireland so see that. 
 
The referendum is going to be fairly tight in Scotland and the SNP are now the largest party in Scotland. 
 
 
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