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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Fook Juve and Napoli. Sampdoria forever!!! They'll beat the drop just see if they dont. ERG shirts will come back and im gonna buy all of them you hear. ALL OF THEM 

A fine choice. I went to watch Sampdoria v Lazio back in August, was a quality trip and cemented my love for I Blucheriati, although from watching them this season Serie B is looking  likely

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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

Originally posted by doherty doherty wrote:

Fook Juve and Napoli. Sampdoria forever!!! They'll beat the drop just see if they dont. ERG shirts will come back and im gonna buy all of them you hear. ALL OF THEM 

A fine choice. I went to watch Sampdoria v Lazio back in August, was a quality trip and cemented my love for I Blucheriati, although from watching them this season Serie B is looking  likely

What's the story with the ground? Looks like its been let slip into a bit of disrepair. From watching on TV seats all faded and look like loads of broken seats aswell. Think a few on here have said its a bit of a dump in person? A shame cause ive always loved those box type stadiums. Is there any plans to upgrade it i wonder?


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Roberto_Carlow Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 29 Nov 2022 at 7:14pm
I'd imagine not much has changed since we played there in 1990. We were sat behind the dugouts which was a great view but seats were old and concourse below was a dump as well. It is a dump but the fact it's such an iconic stadium saves it.

Genoa itself is a great spot with great food. Would recommend a trip over there and tickets were easy to get
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Originally posted by Roberto_Carlow Roberto_Carlow wrote:

I'd imagine not much has changed since we played there in 1990. We were sat behind the dugouts which was a great view but seats were old and concourse below was a dump as well. It is a dump but the fact it's such an iconic stadium saves it.

I was at 4 of the stadia in Italia 90 and the Luigi Ferraris was my favourite. But it and Bari were the only 2 stadia (of 12) purpose-built for the tournament. And never mind that it is now over 30 years old, stadium design in the late 1980s was so far inferior to what we have now that even in mint condition, it wouldn't really compare to the best of modern stadia.

And as for the others, they were only refurbs/expansions of stadia which were then pretty average and almost all municiapally owned, meaning many were multi-purpose with athletics tracks etc.

While since 1990, I think only two major clubs have built a new, football-only stadium of their own, Juve and Sassuolo, with only one(?) other Serie A club owning their own, older stadium. Worse, Juve's new stadium "only" holds 41.5k spectators, somewhat lower than the capacity of other comparable big European rivals and presumably contributing to their current financial difficulties, rather than solving them.

Apparently, this is all a legacy of Italia 90, where everything went wrong from the start, including an 86% overspend on the stadium budget:
https://www.stadiumguide.com/the-unfortunate-legacy-of-italia-1990/

And with so many other countries charging ahead in building new, revenue-generating stadia, Italian football/Serie A is liable to fall even further back from its glory days a quarter of a century ago.

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Napoli v Juventus should be a good game. Kick off 7.45pm tonight 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Napoli v Juventus should be a good game. Kick off 7.45pm tonight 

Quality 1st half. Juve right back in it from nowhere 
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Was it 7 games Juve hadn't conceded in?
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5-1 demolition of a team with 8 wins and no goals conceded. Amazing performance
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Juve docked 15 points. Drops them down to tenth from third
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Originally posted by Denis Irwin Denis Irwin wrote:

Juve docked 15 points. Drops them down to tenth from third
Is it next season that UEFA have a rule that clubs like Juventus will always qualify for the champions league regardless of where they come in Serie A. It's coming in very soon.
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Originally posted by Jackal Jackal wrote:

Is it next season that UEFA have a rule that clubs like Juventus will always qualify for the champions league regardless of where they come in Serie A. It's coming in very soon.
No, not gonna happen.

UEFA originally decided to expand the CL to 36 teams (from 32) and play a Round Robin format (to guarantee each entrant more games), in the hope that this would head off the ESL. This was to take effect from 2024/25.

Two of the additional teams would continue to qualify by the normal route, but another two were to be selected  from those teams which hadnt qualified by the usuall means but which had the best CL record over the previous  five years.

Due to protests from other clubs etc, also the struggle of the ESL to get off the ground, UEFA has dropped this backdoor entry for two clubs - all four addotional slots will need to be filled by the usual means.

More here: https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uefa-champions-league/story/4663021/champions-league-revamp-how-the-competition-will-work-from-2024-25

By the way, even if UEFA had kept the proposed new system, Juve wouldnt have been close to availing of it, since their recent CL record, like all Italian clubs, has been pretty dismal. Rather, it would most likely have been a Spanish and an English club which benefited, though most unusually, had it been applied for next season, it would have been an Englsih and a Dutch team.
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Couple of interesting Serie A results today:

AC Milan 2 v 5 Sassuoolo - now 4 games without a win for Milan (2 defeats, 2 draws), while Sassuolo (17th before today) came into this game on a bad run of 4 defeats and a draw. Milan are home to Spurs in the CL on 14th February (1st leg), with their form hardly any better than that of their opponents.

Juventus 0 v 2 Monza - Never rains but it pours for Juve, to lose to Monza, who are n their first ever season in Serie A after a record 40 years in Serie B. Their recent rise came after a certain Silvio Berlusconi took over in 2018 when they were actually in Serie C- there'll be some Bunga Bunga party tonight!

Meanwhile, Napoli are 1-0 up at H-T at home to Roma -- clinch that one and they'll be 13 points ahead of Inter in second:
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Napoli are a joy to watch!! Hoping to get tickets for their game against Fiorentina in May. 
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Could be a cheeky winner of the Champions League, home form is great. 
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Could be a cheeky winner of the Champions League, home form is great. 
Also drawn against Eintracht Frankfurt in the last 16.

Eintracht, who qualified for the CL by winning last season's Europa League, got this far by finishing 2nd to Spurs in one of the weakest Groups. And although they're only 5 point off the top of the Bundesliga, that still only leaves them 6th.

Form is ok - since the break they've beaten Schalke (hopeless) 3-0 at home; drawn 1-1 at Freiburg (high-flying) and 1-1 at Bayern.

While Napoli's recent record in the CL is barely mediocre, never getting past the last 16, and hardly any better in the Europa League:

I wonder whether Napoli might not be doing another Leicester City/2015-16 - saw their chance in their domestic league, but don't have enough for Europe as well?

Anyhow, FiveThirtyEight gives Napoli a 7% chance of winning the CL, behind Bayern 24%, Man City 21% and Real Madrid also 7%, and just ahead of Liverpool and Benfica on 6%:



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