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Hadn't planned on bringing the hoops to Poland, I am now!
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

My concern is that an element of Celtic supporters seem to think it is OK to show up at our games wearing their Celtic gear and singing IRA songs.  Apart from being offensive they also have the potential to drag the name of our fans through the mud.    We have fans who support Rangers/Man Utd/ Leeds/ Liverpool/etc etc but they seem to be able to leave club allegiances aside  in support of the national team., 
 
nail on the head with this post.
 
many of these fans seem to be under the illusion that supporting Celtic and us are one and the same and therefore gives them another arena to sing their rubbish. RA chants (like i heard beside me in both play off legs) started by these fools have no place at our games
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I think all of this singing of old rebel songs and recent IRA songs is very complicated I must say.  Easiest thing is just join in to what you want to join in with and if someone else wants to sing a song you don't like, leave em be.  No need to be abusing people for singing rebel songs and no need for people to abuse people for not singing either. 

Its not that hard to have a lassiz faire attitude to it really.  If you like the songs and you know the words sing them. If you dont like them and you don't feel they represent you, dont sing them. 
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Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

My concern is that an element of Celtic supporters seem to think it is OK to show up at our games wearing their Celtic gear and singing IRA songs.  Apart from being offensive they also have the potential to drag the name of our fans through the mud.    We have fans who support Rangers/Man Utd/ Leeds/ Liverpool/etc etc but they seem to be able to leave club allegiances aside  in support of the national team., 
 
nail on the head with this post.
 
many of these fans seem to be under the illusion that supporting Celtic and us are one and the same and therefore gives them another arena to sing their rubbish. RA chants (like i heard beside me in both play off legs) started by these fools have no place at our games
better to get rid of the national anthem and the tri colour then at matches.. both are RA publican..?
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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

@ gspain i pulled you up on a few things yesterday but you failed to reply because you had no answer , which is fair enough.



You really must read these articles , your case for defending Rangers actions really gets shown up if it wasn't already. 

Irish people sticking up for a club who was anti-Irish and anti-Catholic for years and years , i really don't get it Confused



Remind me where I said Rangers didn't have a sectarian element or indeed a hooligan element. 

I'm not defending Rangers.  I just think a certain Celtic element try to twist the debate to make it an anti Irish thing as Rangers can't really throw it back and say Celtic are anti British. 

My concern is that an element of Celtic supporters seem to think it is OK to show up at our games wearing their Celtic gear and singing IRA songs.  Apart from being offensive they also have the potential to drag the name of our fans through the mud.    We have fans who support Rangers/Man Utd/ Leeds/ Liverpool/etc etc but they seem to be able to leave club allegiances aside  in support of the national team., 
Sorry but who do you think you are to tell people what they can and can't wear to a football game?
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Originally posted by jackshat jackshat wrote:


No harm to him but what a bollox he is. I have little doubt in my mind he went out that day with the sole intention of causing trouble, I'm glad it sounds like he was unsuccessful. 
 
The GAA and Rangers are the same mentality from different tribes. They have a huge amount in common.
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Originally posted by reabhloid reabhloid wrote:

 better to get rid of the national anthem and the tri colour then at matches.. both are RA publican..?
 
actually the Irish flag represents peace (white) between nationalists (green) and unionists (orange)


Edited by Jbyrne - 19 Apr 2012 at 5:44pm
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

is it just Celtic fans among the Ireland support that sing these IRA songs you speak of?


We don't have a problem with such songs yet by and large but Celtic clearly do and I don't want the good name of our support dragged through the mud.

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Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by reabhloid reabhloid wrote:

 better to get rid of the national anthem and the tri colour then at matches.. both are RA publican..?
 
actually the Irish flag represents peace (white) between nationalists (green) and unionists (orange)


Who are you to tell me what I can and cant sing?

I dont support Celtic. I dont support the IRA. I sing rebel songs because they are quality tunes. I go to matches to support the team. Its this kind of stereotypical sh!te that really is pathetic.
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Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by reabhloid reabhloid wrote:

 better to get rid of the national anthem and the tri colour then at matches.. both are RA publican..?
 
actually the Irish flag represents peace (white) between nationalists (green) and unionists (orange)


Who are you to tell me what I can and cant sing?

I dont support Celtic. I dont support the IRA. I sing rebel songs because they are quality tunes. I go to matches to support the team. Its this kind of stereotypical sh!te that really is pathetic.


UEFA decide what can and can't be sung in games played under their jurisdiction.  Celtic have already been fined by them for IRA chanting. 

IRA songs have nothing to do with supporting the team.


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Originally posted by gspain gspain wrote:

Originally posted by Kerrzy Kerrzy wrote:

Originally posted by Jbyrne Jbyrne wrote:

Originally posted by reabhloid reabhloid wrote:

 better to get rid of the national anthem and the tri colour then at matches.. both are RA publican..?
 
actually the Irish flag represents peace (white) between nationalists (green) and unionists (orange)


Who are you to tell me what I can and cant sing?

I dont support Celtic. I dont support the IRA. I sing rebel songs because they are quality tunes. I go to matches to support the team. Its this kind of stereotypical sh!te that really is pathetic.


UEFA decide what can and can't be sung in games played under their jurisdiction.  Celtic have already been fined by them for IRA chanting. 

IRA songs have nothing to do with supporting the team.


I have never sung them in the stadium. I have sung them in bars and pubs in foreign countriesas I have the right to, as I have in pubs in Dublin and often do at house sessions. Saying that, if any one was started Id happily sing along. As I said on the YNWA thread I could care less what is sung, nursery rhymes if it adds a bit of atmosphere. Sure in Andorra were we not singing Be Not Afraid.. Just Cant Get Enough has nothing to do with supporting the team either if your logic is being used.

Anyone that sees it as sectarian is living in the past imo. If people have a problem with a song, its not my problem. Those who reognise immediately these songs as sectarian are the ones with the problem. I certainly dont match the 2.
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Lads is an IRA song the same as a Republican song.

Are all Republican songs the same.  Which sons were banned by UEFA that got Celtic into trouble. 


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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Lads is an IRA song the same as a Republican song.

Are all Republican songs the same.  Which sons were banned by UEFA that got Celtic into trouble. 




I dont know. I dont and most of my age I know dont associate the songs with either. People on this thread are living in the past.

On a side note, Celtic Symphony creates some atmosphere amongst the Celtic fans. Very easy to change the chorus from "OOH AHH UP THE RA" to "OOH AHH UP TRAPPA". Might upset a few people still living amidst the years of the conflict
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Originally posted by ScotsIrish ScotsIrish wrote:

Hadn't planned on bringing the hoops to Poland, I am now!

Why?? This is the European Championships son, not Celtic away to Clydebank in the Scottish Cup.

Celtic jerseys for Celtic matches, Ireland jerseys for Ireland matches.

Back on topic, Peter McMahon was the lad whose Dad wouldn't let him sign for Rangers. My cousin also had a trial at Rangers as well




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Originally posted by Blue Man Blue Man wrote:



Originally posted by ScotsIrish ScotsIrish wrote:

Hadn't planned on bringing the hoops to Poland, I am now!

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Why?? This is the European Championships son, not Celtic away to Clydebank in the Scottish Cup.

Celtic jerseys for Celtic matches, Ireland jerseys for Ireland matches.

Back on topic, Peter McMahon was the lad whose Dad wouldn't let him sign for Rangers. My cousin also had a trial at Rangers as well



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and no american jeans or chinese shoes at ireland matches either
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Originally posted by reabhloid reabhloid wrote:

Originally posted by Blue Man Blue Man wrote:



Originally posted by ScotsIrish ScotsIrish wrote:

Hadn't planned on bringing the hoops to Poland, I am now!

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Why?? This is the European Championships son, not Celtic away to Clydebank in the Scottish Cup.

Celtic jerseys for Celtic matches, Ireland jerseys for Ireland matches.

Back on topic, Peter McMahon was the lad whose Dad wouldn't let him sign for Rangers. My cousin also had a trial at Rangers as well



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and no american jeans or chinese shoes at ireland matches either

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He's making a conscious decision to take his Celtic gear as a direct response to this thread. 
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and no irish rugby tops at ireland matches either... rugby has nothing got to do with soccer
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I am of the view you should wear your ireland gear to and Ireland game, but its also a free country so you can do the hell what ever you want. 

But just as its a free world to wear a scarf indoors or wear a hat indoors, its also a free world for me to think that they are a dick for  doing so.
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