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Jack Charlton 
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Yeah, shocking sobering stuff for a Sunday morning. Time to go to the pub!
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Jack Charlton
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 1:14pm |
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Ta for the info and the earlier link. By my reckoning, I'll only have about 15 weeks per year contributions from my PAYE term when averaged out over my entire working years, but I would have additional earnings from my fifteen years of part time teaching. |
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 1:09pm |
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It did say social welfare on the Subject line.
What were you expecting Podge you sick bastard :) |
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AKA pedantic kunt
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BigPodge
Paul McGrath 
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 1:08pm |
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This thread is far too serious to be reading having just woke up, this is the whatever section and there's not even one boob on show in the thread (though a lot of boobs have replied)
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:48pm |
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fyou reach pension age on or after April 6 2012, you will need to have 520 paid contributions (10 years paid contributions). In this case, not more than 260 of the 520 contributions may be voluntary contributions. However, if you were a voluntary contributor on or before April 6 1997 and you have a yearly average of 10 contributions, you may meet the requirement if you have a total of 520 contributions, but only 156 need to be compulsory paid contributions. |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:46pm |
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Rossie I see that Citizen has a rule on another thread in that he does not engage with clowns, we should probably follow the same advice in relation to the context of this thread.
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Justice 2012
Liam Brady
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:46pm |
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 No doubt about it
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Roy Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:44pm |
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Well your talking bollocks there.name the last time social welfare staff did this. |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:44pm |
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http://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/older_and_retired_people/state_pension_contributory.html
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Jack Charlton
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:41pm |
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How many stamps are required Baldy? I've now had as many years with stamps as without. At this rate, I'll never be able to retire.
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:38pm |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:26pm |
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Whats your definition of usual Citizen. Is usual that it happens once a week or once a month or once a year or once a decade.
I know for a fact that civil servants embrace new technology day in day out. I think I have read one story over the last 3 years in relation to finger printing that suggested there was an issue there. Don't know the ins and outs on it though. Edited by Baldrick - 04 Mar 2012 at 12:27pm |
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Roy Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:19pm |
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if they bring in new technology will we have the usual case of civil servants refusing to use the machines unless they get a pay rise?
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Baldrick
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:09pm |
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Quick question, what happens if they don't turn up and then you cut off their dole.
What do you think would happen then. |
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 12:05pm |
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Right Welfare seekers . report for duty tomorrow morning in the phoenix park
You will be supplied with the following on arrival: Under 65 -orange bib and a sweeping brush Over 65- yellow bib and a secateurs Sincerely Department of the abolition of free money. |
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MERRY CHRISTMAS
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Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 11:53am |
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Does anyone actually think that the State Contributory Pension should be means tested. Considering there is a test already to get it which is that you have paid enough stamps over the course of your career.
To then put in another test would be crazy. |
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FREEWHEELER
Robbie Keane
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 11:11am |
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The State (Contributory) Pension is not means tested, it's based on a yearly average of your employment contributions in your working life. State Non Contributory Pension is means tested.
You must have photographic ID to CLAIM a Jobseeker's Payment but not necessarily to collect your payment at the Post Office. Some POs insist on ID, most don't and as far as I know it's not mandatory that you have your ID but you can be asked for it if there's a doubt. As we all know as well, photo ID can easily be forged. The "new" Social Welfare Services Card took an eternity to be rolled out thanks to the usual civil liberties bullsh*t and other red-tape, but anyone trying to collect state funds should have this SWS Card that has your photo before it can be paid. Electronic signing has recently come into being as well in some offices in that the you sign an electronic pad when you're signing on. If the signatures don't match, suspicions can and will be raised as to ID of the person.
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Posted: 04 Mar 2012 at 2:41am |
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I think the argument against ID cards is horsesh*t of the highest order. Why I hear you say? Because people in their everyday lives give away personal information willy nilly on the net, on the street, over the phone or wherever without thinking about it.....signing up for this that and everything. If anything having a national ID will be your only way truly proving your identification (passports can be fraudently copied....just ask the Israeli's). Ireland is one of only 4 countries in the EU that do not require their citizens to carry IDs. Denmark, Sweden and the UK are the others. The reason Denmark doesn't is because they have a card called the National Health Insurance Card which has all the information on it anyway (no photo), Sweden technically has an ID card but it's not legally required however now a lot of Swedish institutions/banks etc require it therefore their citizens have had to apply for it and campaigners in Britain successfully lobbied against it (even though labour did their best to railroad it in). Well I didn't mean to rant so long about ID cards but it's a joke when a small number of campaigners cause so much noise that politicians end up sweeping policies or potential legislation that would benefit the country as a whole under the carpet. Now back to Social Welfare It's too easy for a lot of people who are drawing on the dole to remain on it without making any effort. A friend and I were out in our local town a few months ago and my friend made a valid observation in a pub with approx 50 patrons. He said look around which I did....everybody in front of you is on social welfare...and you know what he was right. I was shocked...the people who did have jobs were at home saving the pennies because they were not getting a free house off the council or mortgage protection or whatever else. The issue is to do with mindset and that will never be changed. We've always been a country of chancers and we'll always be a country of chancers.
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