Richard Dunne

Nothing new here. Given said during the week he could be out for the rest of the season but it would be nice to play some games for Villa to get him fully fit. Either way he said it would take a lotmore than this to keep him out of the summer

jesus christ no. Dunne is probably are most important player, considering the opposition

I fookin feared it was worse than they were initially saying, fook this..........

Predator wrote: Dunne will stay fit. He is a professional. The nature of his injury will allow for bike work in the gym, at least.

Stay off the pints Richie

Roberto Baggio wrote: I'd play O'Shea at centre back and Stephen Kelly RB O'Shea playing very well in that position for Sunderland at the minute

Agreed. Think O'Shea is better in the middle and Kelly has been solid for us, before he got a run in the Fulham team too

Sky Sports say he'll be out for 8 weeks. He'll be nice and fresh for the Euro's so after a 2 month rest...

Vivakenbarlow wrote: Germany was nearly 6 years ago- if walcott hadnt electric pace he wouldnt be a footballer Look at michael owen pele geoff hurst etc- none of those players had played many internationals before their first tournie and all absolutely took the tournaments by storm- if youre good enough youre old enough In any case how will a player gain experience if he isnt being picked?

You're referring to the cream of the crop there in fairness that had played. Owen played a full season before getting picked - a season which he scored over 20 goals for a top PL team. it looks as if Duffy may not break back into the Everton team soon barring injuries after a couple of terrific results so he may not get much more than a half dozen full games before June with Jakielka coming back from injury in a few weeks. Hes a raw talent, nothing more.

How many were clamouring for his inclusion a month ago before he started a couple of games for Everton? Thats my argument. You dont become a good player overnight. If he was that good people would've been saying the same thing before Estonia. Its easy to say McShame, Mcshanes sh*te, I wouldnt put him in a club team, Duffy should be picked which is what people are saying without actually seeing the fella in action and its pathetic.

He'll get experience in time, hes only 20. And now he could well get a subs appearance at the end of the month.

Baldrick wrote: Kerzy, you would never make it as a scout.  There is a talent in being able to spot a player and see in 1 or 2 games that the player has what it takes to make it.  Some people just have talent.  By your logic Wayne Rooney would never have played for Everton at 16 or Pele in the world cup at 18.  I think those who cannot spot good players often hide behind the argument that they have to have played 30 or 40 games, however ifyou are a scout and you need to get in ahead of the other scouts, having the talent to spot players with talent is something that is much sought after by the clubs and countries.

its easy to say that about Rooney or Pele now. Have a look at a lot of the failed players., i.e. walcott. Wenger to this day says him being called up in 06 ruined his career ( dont necessarily agree) but he makes a case for it.

I have said that i wouldve had him in the squad earlier in the thread but would be happy enough with mcshane becaise of experience. Talent is only half the battle at international level. I suport the decision and hopefully ot'll quieten down some of the Traps critics that want every ypung player playing at club lecvel in the squad

EDIT: set back rather than ruined would be a better paraphrase    

Edited by Kerrzy - 13 Feb 2012 at 12:41pm