Manchester Utd Thread

Roberto Baggio wrote: Sancho can only get better so far

started really slow for Dortmund last season hopefully picks up after the International break. Oh 

If CR7 didnt put that winner away, Ole would be called out as a wimp for not taking him off. Incredible small margins.

McG wrote: If CR7 didnt put that winner away, Ole would be called out as a wimp for not taking him off. Incredible small margins.

So true

Ole still has the highest win percentage of any manager in Manchester United's history.

He will be United manager for many a year. 

He is building something.

You guys asking why his midfield isn't good enough? Because he has a bigger plan than just this season. He had to patch up the mentality in the dressing-room. He changed that right around. Had to change up the man-management. Changed that right around. Had to patch up his forward line. Did that. Had to improve his full-backs. Did that. Definitely needed a whole new central defence. Did that. Needed a right-winger, did that. 

Now he needs a central midfielder. No doubt about it. No one is arguing that. But he wasn't going to solve all of the mess listed above in two full seasons. Next summer, the central midfield will be addressed. What's everybody want? Everything to be all sorted in one go? That's not how you build a squad meant to last. 

We all know Ole had a five year plan when he came into the club. He got the job based on his five-year plan. He'd building towards that, and has improved year on year. It's very clear he is not setting up United to try to win one league title. He is setting United up to compete for loads of titles over the long-term. 

if that's not obvious to you all, then you are blind to what's going on at Manchester United. Ole's reign goes far, far beyond this season. Way beyond it. He's doing a fantastic job of improving the first team year on year while working towards his long-term vision. If you really wanna know what he's cooking up, all you have to do is look at the list of 26 teenagers the club have signed since Ole come in. Players from the academies of Man City, from Liverpool, from Real Madrid, from Barcelona, from Atletico Madrid.  But of course judging by the tripe I've read over the past few pages here, you lot wouldn't know anything about that—seeing as you all have Ole down to be sacked after United were beaten by Aston Villa. You lot clearly understand get it.

There is more to football than the immediate. 

Edited by SteoC - 30 Sep 2021 at 11:29am

It wouldn't be failure at all. 

I don't expect them to win anything this season. I think Ole is still two summers away from being able to compete at the very top. But once he does, he won't be competing at the top for one or two season, We are talking about competing over the very long term. That's what he's setting up. Just take a look at all of his signings since he came into the club. This isn't about the now. 

I know how old Edison and Cristiano are.

They are not the signings I'm talking about. As you can read above. I am talking about the signings made for the long-term. The 26 teenagers. Not the ones to plaster over the immediate cracks. I would imagine, for starters, that Liverpool won't want to face Man United, seeing as Klopp don't have a good record against Ole's United. United also finished above them in the league last season. Incidentally, United had as many injuries last season as Liverpool. I'm a Liverpool fan. Well, kinda. I just love the Premier League. I used to be a Liverpool nut.

But I am certain that United fans at Old Trafford would love this Ole route then hiring Antonio Conte only to try to rush something in the immediate. Ole's reign is all about the long term. It isn't about the now.

SteoC wrote: It wouldn't be failure at all.  I don't expect them to win anything this season. I think Ole is still two summers away from being able to compete at the very top. But once he does, he won't be competing at the top for one or two season, We are talking about competing over the very long term. That's what he's setting up. Just take a look at all of his signings since he came into the club. This isn't about the now.

SteoC wrote: You can think what you want. It's insignificant.  United are planning to compete for titles over the long-term, not the immediate.  I don't give a sh*t. I have no horse in the race. I just think it's embarrassing that you guys don't know what's going on. or that nobody is at least discussing it here. It's all reactionary tripe. United loose to Aston Villa = Sack Ole. Even though United were top of the league 90-minutes ago, and have improved year on year with Ole implementing his long term plan. It just shows no understanding of what is really going on.  Do I think the plan will work? I have no idea of knowing. Neither do you. But at least it's a plan. And I for one even though I used to hate United, actually appreciate it and look forward to seeing how it plays out. It's much more interesting than watching Chelsea sign a different manager every 19 months. But we do all know there is a plan at United because we have all the evidence in front of us. But while I keep looking at what's really going on, you keep looking at it week-to-week and keep getting your boxer shorts in a twisty.