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Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move
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Sancho deal seems close
£100m+
 
Those damned Glazers and Ed Woodward have found another huge fee for a transfer. Don't support their managers apparently
 
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move

The no transfer fee thing for a top player first seemed to appear last summer with Gareth Bale. Its extraordinary that wages have inflated to such a point where clubs would actually forfeit a transfer fee in order to save the eye-watering sums they agree to pay in wages.
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move

The no transfer fee thing for a top player first seemed to appear last summer with Gareth Bale. Its extraordinary that wages have inflated to such a point where clubs would actually forfeit a transfer fee in order to save the eye-watering sums they agree to pay in wages.

It seems more and more players are running down their contracts as they know on a free they can get a huge wage increase - see Arron Ramsey. 

A lot of players over 30 looking for 2/3/4 year contracts up to 35 whereas the clubs only want a shorter extension.

There is always one club that will pay/take the gamble.

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Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move

The no transfer fee thing for a top player first seemed to appear last summer with Gareth Bale. Its extraordinary that wages have inflated to such a point where clubs would actually forfeit a transfer fee in order to save the eye-watering sums they agree to pay in wages.

It seems more and more players are running down their contracts as they know on a free they can get a huge wage increase - see Arron Ramsey. 

A lot of players over 30 looking for 2/3/4 year contracts up to 35 whereas the clubs only want a shorter extension.

There is always one club that will pay/take the gamble.

It almost is mutually beneficial whereby you can get a player who has a market value of £60 Million, for free, and pay him £40 Million in wages over 3 years, with the benefit of potentially being able to shift him quickly, without losing the once off payment made to secure the transfer. My understanding with Bale was that Madrid became a little uneasy about the prospect of recouping nothing on the large fee paid in 2013, and I suspect didn't want a token £5 Million-£10 Million, and might have been up for a haircut of £30 Million, but no more.

The benefits of the contract market, since Bosman, is that it hands players significant power. And when you think about the number of players who ducked out at the end of their contracts during the recent games, its forces the club's hand, considerably.
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Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move

The no transfer fee thing for a top player first seemed to appear last summer with Gareth Bale. Its extraordinary that wages have inflated to such a point where clubs would actually forfeit a transfer fee in order to save the eye-watering sums they agree to pay in wages.

It seems more and more players are running down their contracts as they know on a free they can get a huge wage increase - see Arron Ramsey. 

A lot of players over 30 looking for 2/3/4 year contracts up to 35 whereas the clubs only want a shorter extension.

There is always one club that will pay/take the gamble.

It almost is mutually beneficial whereby you can get a player who has a market value of £60 Million, for free, and pay him £40 Million in wages over 3 years, with the benefit of potentially being able to shift him quickly, without losing the once off payment made to secure the transfer. My understanding with Bale was that Madrid became a little uneasy about the prospect of recouping nothing on the large fee paid in 2013, and I suspect didn't want a token £5 Million-£10 Million, and might have been up for a haircut of £30 Million, but no more.

The benefits of the contract market, since Bosman, is that it hands players significant power. And when you think about the number of players who ducked out at the end of their contracts during the recent games, its forces the club's hand, considerably.

Reports that United will save 62 million over 3 years for the deal. Mind blowing 
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by Zinedine Kilbane 110 Zinedine Kilbane 110 wrote:

Originally posted by Het-field Het-field wrote:

Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Sanchez on his way to Inter. No transfer fee, but 400k a week off the wage bill
Possibly the worst ever transfer for United if not the Premier League, but a positive move

The no transfer fee thing for a top player first seemed to appear last summer with Gareth Bale. Its extraordinary that wages have inflated to such a point where clubs would actually forfeit a transfer fee in order to save the eye-watering sums they agree to pay in wages.

It seems more and more players are running down their contracts as they know on a free they can get a huge wage increase - see Arron Ramsey. 

A lot of players over 30 looking for 2/3/4 year contracts up to 35 whereas the clubs only want a shorter extension.

There is always one club that will pay/take the gamble.

It almost is mutually beneficial whereby you can get a player who has a market value of £60 Million, for free, and pay him £40 Million in wages over 3 years, with the benefit of potentially being able to shift him quickly, without losing the once off payment made to secure the transfer. My understanding with Bale was that Madrid became a little uneasy about the prospect of recouping nothing on the large fee paid in 2013, and I suspect didn't want a token £5 Million-£10 Million, and might have been up for a haircut of £30 Million, but no more.

The benefits of the contract market, since Bosman, is that it hands players significant power. And when you think about the number of players who ducked out at the end of their contracts during the recent games, its forces the club's hand, considerably.

Reports that United will save 62 million over 3 years for the deal. Mind blowing 

That will probably pay for AWB's transfer and a few years wages.. It makes commercial sense, and if United were to hold out for £30 Million as a transfer fee, Inter might walk away, and you're stuck with a player who is incredibility expensive, and out of the manager's plans. In truth, the wages are forcing Man United's hand.
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Completely agree. Reading about it there and the saving on his weekly wages is equal to a combination of Rashford and Martials. A few other big earners there that would be nice to trim from the wage bill, 

Mata - 160k 
Rojo - 80k
Lingard and Jones - 75k each
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Think Lingard spoofed his way to a £100k per week contract
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There is something strange when an industry gets to a point when some people are paid enough in a month, to set the up for life. But that was also likely to impact the transfer market in relation to fees. When a player's contract is worth more than his market value, something has to give.
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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

Completely agree. Reading about it there and the saving on his weekly wages is equal to a combination of Rashford and Martials. A few other big earners there that would be nice to trim from the wage bill, 

Mata - 160k 
Rojo - 80k
Lingard and Jones - 75k each


United had a seriously bloated squad a few years ago and lots of players on big contracts 

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They need to get rid Mata, Lingard, Matic and pick two from Smalling/ Jones / Bailly....
 



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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Sancho deal seems close
£100m+
 
Those damned Glazers and Ed Woodward have found another huge fee for a transfer. Don't support their managers apparently
 
 
Has anyone ever said that?
 
 
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Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Sancho deal seems close
£100m+
 
Those damned Glazers and Ed Woodward have found another huge fee for a transfer. Don't support their managers apparently
 
 
Has anyone ever said that?
 
 
 
I've heard United fans saying for years that the Glazers won't support their managers with transfers, and the protests against Woodward have been well documented.
 
 


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Originally posted by BrendanD88 BrendanD88 wrote:

Originally posted by Roberto Baggio Roberto Baggio wrote:

Sancho deal seems close
£100m+
 
Those damned Glazers and Ed Woodward have found another huge fee for a transfer. Don't support their managers apparently
 
 
Has anyone ever said that?
 
 
 
I've heard United fans saying for years that the Glazers won't support their managers with transfers, and the protests against Woodward have been well documented.
 
 
 
United's fans problem with the owners is well documented they bought the club via a leveraged buyout costing the club millions a year.
 
The fact United are still a massive club and are able to attract lucrative sponsorship deals etc  which therefore enable the owners to spend big without actually spending any of their own money.
 
And the protests regarding Woodward is solely down to him not having a clue about the sporting aspects of the business hence giving the likes of Matic, Sanchez and Lingard massive deals.
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I wouldn't describe a club who celebrates finishing 33 points behind their fiercest rivals and 15 points behind their neighbours as massive tbh.

When the mentality is finishing top 4 and not actually challenging to win the league, the stature sinks I'm afraid.
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I wouldn't describe a club who celebrates finishing 33 points behind their fiercest rivals and 15 points behind their neighbours as massive tbh.

When the mentality is finishing top 4 and not actually challenging to win the league, the stature sinks I'm afraid.

Whilst I was delighted that United got 3rd, it was more so that it seems very unlikely at the recommencement of games and was a great achievement

It definitely wasn't because they finished so far behind their rivals, and a club like United should be challenging for top place, which the Top 4 finish, should help them get closer with attracting players etc.

I'd think the majority of United fans would think the same, but could be wrong
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Originally posted by coyne coyne wrote:

I wouldn't describe a club who celebrates finishing 33 points behind their fiercest rivals and 15 points behind their neighbours as massive tbh.

When the mentality is finishing top 4 and not actually challenging to win the league, the stature sinks I'm afraid.

There you go telling lies again. 

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Originally posted by ChesterCopperpot ChesterCopperpot wrote:

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I wouldn't describe a club who celebrates finishing 33 points behind their fiercest rivals and 15 points behind their neighbours as massive tbh.

When the mentality is finishing top 4 and not actually challenging to win the league, the stature sinks I'm afraid.

It definitely wasn't because they finished so far behind their rivals, and a club like United should be challenging for top place, which the Top 4 finish, should help them get closer with attracting players etc.

Yeah definitely but you can't call yourself massive at this moment in time when you have nothing to show for it. The balance sheets are massive but so are Newcastle's and their mentality is to finish minimum 17th every season (Likewise with Sunderland when they were boring the league to death) it's not a big club mentality.
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