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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22175 |
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Well looking at United's goal scorers yesterday and recruitment this summer they have a plan in place it would seem? Just their fans are getting restless because they can't see that the man leading them on the pitch is out his depth and want to blame the suits with no control over results.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10781 |
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Who appointed him? No, I don't think United have any plan on recruitment.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22175 |
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Who did the fans want?
Do you not think there would have been uproar if Solskjaer wasn't appointed because I do, between fans, Sir Alex, ex players etc wanting him getting the job. Well I disagree there re recruitment, it's fairly evident that they're trying to move away from giving players a last big pay day by signing for United for outrageous sums on money. If they sign anyone in January it'll be an up and coming young player, with the scope to improve. It's easy for Liverpool fans to smile now though, they were a shambles and were in a worse situation than United are now for huge periods of the past 30 years or so. Its shows no clubs are perfect.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10781 |
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So, Woodward makes the wrong decision to keep the fans happy? Then he is at fault - Simple as that. A proper strategy involves identifying what type of manager you are looking for and then going out and trying to find him. Not just employing a name. And your point about Liverpool being in a worse situation is exactly why some of Liverpool fans can see exactly what is wrong with United - It looks very familiar.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22175 |
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So if you were Woodward after Solskjaers stunning start in charge you wouldn't have even offered him a one year deal for argument sake?
I would be very skeptical if you said no, hindsight is a great thing. In appointing Solskjaer they wanted a man who knew the club inside out and the identity of Manchester United (this has been trotted out time and time again) he came in and done brilliantly initially I think he deserved a chance (even on a year deal) |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10781 |
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No, if I had a plan I would stick to it. Owners or people running clubs constantly crack me up. Like those in charge of Everton who spent ages chasing Silva and then when they couldn't get him, appoint Sam Allardyce. Two managers with more differing approaches to the game you would be hard to find. If I had been running United and I had found myself in Woodward's position when he started considering Mourinho's position, I would have resisted the temptation to sack him immediately. I would have devoted my efforts to persuading Monchi to come to United after he left Roma. From there, you decide on what style of manager you/he agree on as a template for the future direction of the club, identify who fits the bill and only then dispense with Mourinho once you have who you want. Having somebody who "Knew" the club wouldn't even appear on my list of criteria for a new manager.
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ChesterCopperpot
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I as a United fan didn't and wouldn't have wanted him near the club, but granted I don't speak for all but the majority I know didn't want Jose at the club either. Laugh all you want, I mentioned recruitment policy, which includes the players brought in. James has turned into a good signing, granted. AWB is a good young player, but for 50million can't be considered a good signing. Maguire for 80m is crazy money as he is just about better than the players that were there already. Who sanctioned these deals. Meanwhile, already not graced with an abundance of midfield options, Herrera, arguably Uniteds best player over the last number of seasons is allowed leave on a free. A number of replacements were discussed to replace him, two were probably needed due to the lack of backup and none were brought in
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BrendanD88
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Depends on the situation? |
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BrendanD88
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Ole got appointed on the back of the PSG fluke. What was the rush to appoint him on a full time basis? I’m sure all parties would have been happy to wait until the end of the season but Woodward jumped the gun and made a poor judgement call, of course he has to take a lot of blame with the state of the current side.
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irishmufc
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I wouldn't agree on hoping my team loses because the manager isn't fit to be in charge for whatever reason. When push comes to shove you wouldn't really want to go to an Ireland game hoping they lose because you wanted X manager out. |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10022 |
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Fair enough! I’d prefer short term damage over long term. Thankfully for Ireland we won’t have too long to wait for a needed change in approach.
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HuntysCousin
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Since Fergie left, there has been a number of people that fans say are a reason for the decline, it's just plain wrong to say Woodward has been the main blame. It's also wrong to ignore the role he has played in this, he has made a number of bad and very costly mistakes. As Borussia has pointed out, the club STILL has not put a DoF or sporting director in place, which given the fact Woodward hasn't a notion about football, means the club lacks any clear direction. Giving Ole a 3 year contract after 3 good months just sums him up, he made the decision that fans thought would be a good idea, rather than actually focusing on appointing a manager who was actually good enough to bring the team forward.
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ChesterCopperpot
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Bruno Fernandes signs a new deal at Lisbon which no doubt has an inflated release clause.
Another fine piece of business from Woodword
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BigPodge
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Great to see so many youngsters getting a run out today, also great to see Lingard get his first goal in 28 games.
Astana are a terrible side.
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BohsinMunich
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9fingers
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Had Astana double chance backed at evens, They only played for about 15 minutes and were able to put away United.
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SuperDave84
Robbie Keane ooh Thomas, how could you do this to me! Joined: 26 Aug 2011 Location: Far Fungannon Status: Offline Points: 21384 |
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Alkmaar only drew 2-2 with Partizan Belgrade. That's a positive for United because it means they only need a draw to top the group. It's also a positive for Scottish teams, because Alkmaar came from 0-2 and 10 men in the 88th minute to win, to knock Partizan out. It's another result towards Scotland getting a second Champions League place, as Serbia is one of the countries they need to overcome. There's a strong chance that Scotland will rise in the rankings and get a second UCL place.
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ChesterCopperpot
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The axe must be hovering after another poor result yesterday
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