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Robbie Keane YBIG Minister of Doom & Gloom Joined: 25 Jan 2010 Location: Irish Riviera Status: Offline Points: 39849 |
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Sheff Utd completely lost their composure on the ball. Knew that was coming.
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Roberto Baggio
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Good game
Sheff Utd didn’t deserve to lose it, glad they got the late leveller Sensible decision, couldn’t disallow that for a hand ball.
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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10018 |
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Worst possible outcome! A defeat and surely Ole would have been under serious pressure, a point gives him a stay of execution.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25097 |
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Would you have rather a loss than a draw?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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HuntysCousin
Jack Charlton Joined: 26 Sep 2011 Location: Waterford Status: Offline Points: 5241 |
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Woodward doesn't have the balls to sack him. If he gets rid of Ole at the moment, it'll make him look even more incompetent than he already does (hard to believe it's possible to be fair). He would need the team to be on a brutal run, instead, it'll just be a season of constant mediocrity.
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BrendanD88
Roy Keane 99% of my posts are emojis Joined: 29 Mar 2013 Location: Co Down Status: Offline Points: 10018 |
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If it meant sacking Ole and appointing a competent manager then yea.
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ChesterCopperpot
Liam Brady Joined: 28 Feb 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1169 |
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Terrible first half performance, better in the second, but both halves highlight OGS's failing and even with a win, I'd be saying the same thing, time to go
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HuntysCousin
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Looks like Ed is after pissing off Fergie too:
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25097 |
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I doubt you'd want Ireland to lose if it mean't getting rid of a manager you don't like would you?
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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I find it rather odd why United fans see Ed Woodward as much as a hate figure as Blackburn fans hated the Venkys or the Mags with Mike Ashley.
The sheer amount of money United managers have been sanctioned by him has been outrageous, instead of looking closer and blaming under performing players or managers the fans direct most of their hate and anger towards Woodward. I do get that Woodward isn't a football man per say and has made mistakes, but it's very naive for Man United fans to think he is the route of all their problems imo.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Roberto Baggio
Robbie Keane UNBELIEVABLE JEFF Joined: 28 Jan 2010 Status: Offline Points: 37344 |
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Nothing conclusive there of a row. Could just be having a normal conversation given the facial expressions in those photos
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10759 |
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If the person in charge of the plan actually doesn't appear to have a plan then it's obvious they will be the one who will be questioned.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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Tell me how many clubs in the Premiership are consistent with their plans i.e. between sticking with managers, recruitment policies, promoting players from within the youth set up, constantly backing mangers in the transfer market etc. I would argue there are very few when you add everything up. The simple fact is 99% of football fans wouldn't have a clue about the inner workings of how a club works and instead of looking at results/players/manager etc United fans are solely blaming a guy who gave them Jose Mourinho when they wanted a top manager, he gave them Solskjaer when they wanted him on a full time basis? He has backed managers to the tune over £700m + since he took over or something along those lines with a poor enough return on player sales. Again, it's beyond delusional for anyone blaming Woodward for every problem United have.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Borussia
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To answer your question, how quickly you get this answer depends on whether you stop from the bottom of the league table and work up or the other way around. Liverpool and Leicester are not where they are by accident.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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No denying that both Liverpool and Leicester are very good examples but there are countless clubs who don't operate like either in the Premiership.
It helps that Leicester are a middle of the road Midlands club with reasonable expectations (not deluded like Watford or Everton for argument sake) while Liverpool have been extremely inconsistent as a club for the best part of 30 years bar a few glory years, so it was clear allowing Klopp the freedom to implement his ideas and methods over a long period (backed by the owners) was needed to get them back to where the club belongs. Man United are victims of their own success, fans are restless because they can't accept they are no longer top dog anymore and are basically using every avenue possible to blame their worries on one man basically The funny thing is United could go out and spend £100m in January on players the manager want's and he's still getting the brunt of it? Maybe if they just accepted that they're now seen as nothing more than a top 6 side and appreciate the glory years they would be more understanding. |
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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ChesterCopperpot
Liam Brady Joined: 28 Feb 2019 Status: Offline Points: 1169 |
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Not the sole blame, but certainly deserves a portion.
Seems to be an astute business man, but lacking football knowledge. Has had a key role in the hiring of all of Fergies successors, none of who could be considered successful Though not the only reason for the poor performances this year, the recruitment during the summer has to be questioned, a number of key positions leaving and not being addressed, namely midfield and upfront. Again, a Woodward issue
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Borussia
Roy Keane Joined: 14 Oct 2010 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 10759 |
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The thing is, that is not what has happened. Since FSG have taken over, they've had an idea of how they want to structure the club and run things - They've made some large mistakes and learned from them and after a number of iterations have now come upon a set up that works of which Klopp is only a part - A very important part- but a part nonetheless. Throwing money at a problem without a plan just doesn't work - United are proving this. If I was a United fan, I'd be disgusted that nothing has been done to put in place a plan and a structure in terms of player development and recruitment under the guidance of a sporting director who has a vision and has been tasked with implementing it. That whole phrase of doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results really springs to mind here.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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I would argue that bar a handful of clubs in world football, they would have taken hand and all to get Jose Mourinho in charge of their club so again no idea why he'd ever be blamed for getting him in? He also back Mourinho with huge funds/wages and again he's the one to blame? I have to laugh at that point because your very clubs manager said he would have been happy to work with the squad he inherited before the season ended and again in June after they signed James and Wan Bassaka. Then Woodward goes out and gets him an £80m defender on top of that? I agree United were light up top front when Lukaku left but there has to be a balance, even at a top club with spending on transfers (Especially when you factor in how much money United have spent in the past decade on transfers) United fan's have the nerve to poke fun at Chelsea and Man City's spending, yet they think the answer to all of their problems is to outspend everyone else in the hope it gets them out of this hole they're in as a club? A dose of reality and perspective is needed at Old Trafford and acceptance of the clubs new position as merely a top 6 club (on the pitch anyway)
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
Eamonn Dunphy on Glenn Whelan |
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