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He has been terrible for Ireland! Can’t remember him having a good game for us.
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Hasn't really worked out for him with Ireland. When he was playing his best stuff a few years ago as a wing back we were still playing a flat back 4 and he didn't really suit being an out and out left back. Now we're playing wing backs but between injuries and form he's fallen back.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Not up to it for Ireland.

If and granted, it's a big if, he could recapture fitness and his best form, he could still be an option given the competition for that spot. Seems unlikely though, hasn't played a lot in the last season and a half.
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Not up to it for Ireland.
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His first game since the opening day of the season.
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Back on the bench today!
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Back on the bench today!
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Misses out tonight because of injury. Played 89mins in the first leg but went down in the first half with what looked like a possible knock to his calf.

Commentator said it's an knee injury, wasn't he also out with an knee injury earlier in the season?

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Scores to put the Blades 4-0 up over Fulham.
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On the bench today.
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Hasnt been right since his knee injury last season, keeps picking up other little niggles just as gets going again.
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Originally posted by aviva8 aviva8 wrote:

Is he injured or what going on?not in any sheffield squads for a long time


Yeah, calf injury. No return date as far as I know, supposedly healing very slowly.

Might not be back for the Ireland games.
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Is he injured or what going on?not in any sheffield squads for a long time
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Stevens got an assist today for Sheffield united first goal. He also got an assist last week against Bristol Rovers
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Makes his return form injury tonight against Southampton.
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That's fine, but in that case let's use a formation that suits the players we have available to us and stick with it. This is not a club team and we can't just sign players to fit the manager's preferred formation. We do not have the players to play 4-3-3 or a variant of it (4-2-3-1 etc) as we don't have good enough left backs, we don't have an obvious 10 to play a Hoolahan role, we don't have a natural right sided forward who is good enough and we don't have a centre forward who is good enough to play as a lone striker at international level.

We have centre backs, tons of them, decent wing backs, solid but not especially creative midfielders and forwards who work better when they're paired with another forward, not left up front on their own. So the formation that brings all that together is 3-5-2/5-3-2. It would be crazy for us to move away from it and back to something which hasn't worked despite being tried for almost a full season's worth of international games.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

He has always been quite wedded to 4-3-3 or a variant of it. But 3-5-2 is clearly the setup that fits the players we have, given our lack of decent left backs, right wing forwards and 10s. Just have a bad feeling that sooner or later he will once again try to shoehorn in players into a 4-3-3 to fit the way he thinks the game should be played. Hopefully not though, the Hungary game showed that we have the players to compete if they're set up properly.

For international football, player selection can change from game to game seeing as there can be a gap of 8 months between them.

For me it makes more sense to set a formation and tactic and fit the players into it rather than select a formation based on the players you have that day.

Germany did it that way when they had padolski and Klose who were not playing well for their clubs at all but were selected for world cup duty as they fit the formation better than the other forwards (of which there were not many quality forwards available) 

This way, any new players coming into the team know the formation and tactics before they join the squad. For me having the players already know what is expected of them before they join the squad is a massive benefit, rather than setting the team up with the week they have together.
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