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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Basketball, Cricket and hockey have world cups and would only have a handful of decent teams. 

Football is the only truly global team sport


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A great victory for Ireland this morning on NZ soil its definitely up there with Cavan's victory in the Polo Grounds NY 1947 both outstanding achievements đź‘Ź
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Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Basketball, Cricket and hockey have world cups and would only have a handful of decent teams. 

Football is the only truly global team sport

That's definitely true but that in no way should denigrate all the other team sports like rugby, hockey, basketball, cricket. 

Football is a freak sport and an outlier in that it is popular on all five continents. Most other sports (including all the Olympic ones) don't have anywhere near that type of reach and popularity - but that shouldn't be used as a reason to dismiss them or claim that it is not an achievement to do well in them. The likes of Muhammed Ali, Tiger Woods, Roger Federer etc all became global superstars in sports that are dominated by only a few countries.
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It’s time Sky took up an option on the great sport of Irish Road Bowls, which has produced most of its stars from Armagh and Cork. Why not ? Curling, lacrosse and all other eccentric minority sports have had their turn.
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Originally posted by More Anne More Anne wrote:

Winning a three match test series in New Zealand is an outstanding sporting achievement and will be remembered as such. It's likely the only time it will happen in any our lifetimes. 

The Lions and South Africa have each only done it once in over a century which tells you how hard it is. 

New Zealand are to rugby what Brazil, Italy and Germany put together would be like to football. 

Even when they are not the world champions, they are always the benchmark, and winning there in any match, especially for a Northern hemisphere team at the end of it season, is always a mammoth task. Christ, it takes at least a week just to recover properly from the jetlag it's so far away and then you have the culture shock of going from high summer to deep winter. 


Well said , really was an outstanding come back from one down in the first test .

Well done to the Rugby lads , just wish we could come up with something as massive in the football . 
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Fair play to Sexton passing out the 100 points mark. Only 100 or so behind O'Gara now. No guarantees he'll pass him but we've had the 2 greatest Irish outhalves back to back now and Humphreys before wasn't bad either.
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Considering no other team has won a test series in NZ in the professional era and very few before that, it is a great achievement. 

The comparing to football and the use of the word 'world' when only 10 countries are competitive is just ignorant. It is true that there are not as many competitive but the Irish players are top of their profession, something you can't say about many other sports. So fair play to them.

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Originally posted by Strazdas Strazdas wrote:

Originally posted by Artie Ziff Artie Ziff wrote:

Basketball, Cricket and hockey have world cups and would only have a handful of decent teams. 

Football is the only truly global team sport

That's definitely true but that in no way should denigrate all the other team sports like rugby, hockey, basketball, cricket. 

That's my point, it's used to bash rugby but most sports are the same. I have no idea in cricket if Australia beating India is a qualifier, a world cup match or a friendly. But it seems a big deal to the supporters so why would I get the hump just because I support a different sport. If those supporters all agree that it's a big game, who am I to disagree?



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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Baseball has its World Series, which is effectively confined to USA and Canada. Gaelic football and hurling are missing a trick here by having All-Ireland instead of World Championship competitions, which would include of course the likes of London and New York. Seriously, though, any sport we can produce decent national teams for is worth a watch if only for public house bragging rights. Rugby is one such.

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Baseball has its World Series, which is effectively confined to USA and Canada. Gaelic football and hurling are missing a trick here by having All-Ireland instead of World Championship competitions, which would include of course the likes of London and New York. Seriously, though, any sport we can produce decent national teams for is worth a watch if only for public house bragging rights. Rugby is one such.

The world series is named after newspaper.  
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Its a great win I don't think anyone is denying that but it's the lack of perspective that generally follows a result like the documentary on RTE after the win in Chicago. None the less Sexton actually quickly reaffirmed it would mean nothing should history repeat itself in 12 months time. The commentary however in the game yestersay said something like the 10 biggest minutes in Irish Rugby ever upon us thats nonsense.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Baseball has its World Series, which is effectively confined to USA and Canada. Gaelic football and hurling are missing a trick here by having All-Ireland instead of World Championship competitions, which would include of course the likes of London and New York. Seriously, though, any sport we can produce decent national teams for is worth a watch if only for public house bragging rights. Rugby is one such.

The world series is named after newspaper.  

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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Baseball has its World Series, which is effectively confined to USA and Canada. Gaelic football and hurling are missing a trick here by having All-Ireland instead of World Championship competitions, which would include of course the likes of London and New York. Seriously, though, any sport we can produce decent national teams for is worth a watch if only for public house bragging rights. Rugby is one such.

The world series is named after newspaper.  
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Originally posted by irelandfan irelandfan wrote:

Its a great win I don't think anyone is denying that but it's the lack of perspective that generally follows a result like the documentary on RTE after the win in Chicago. None the less Sexton actually quickly reaffirmed it would mean nothing should history repeat itself in 12 months time. The commentary however in the game yestersay said something like the 10 biggest minutes in Irish Rugby ever upon us thats nonsense.
That's a Sky commentary. Anyone who's watched football on Sky knows they love to exaggerate everything on their channels. Nobody believes it's the biggest 10 mns in Irish Rugby
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Great achievement and great back to back performances after the disappointment of the first test. Truth is while it's never been done before, Ireland are one of the top sides in the world at the minute and New Zealand are at a low ebb (by their standards). I expected Ireland to win at least one on this tour and if history/pressure didn't get to them a series win was more than achievable. That played out because the 2nd test we hammered them everywhere except the scoreboard, and while NZ came back strong in the 3rd test I always felt Ireland would get things back under control. 

The fact it has only been done by so few teams says a lot. One caveat to that stat though - South Africa and Australia don't "tour" NZ any more since the introduction of the Tri Nations in the 90s. They play eachother in the rugby championship. I think the last time SA toured NZ was 1994. If tours between the big three in the Southern Hemisphere were more common, I'd have expected Australia or especially SA to have won a tour or two in the last 25 years tbh. 
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by irelandfan irelandfan wrote:

Its a great win I don't think anyone is denying that but it's the lack of perspective that generally follows a result like the documentary on RTE after the win in Chicago. None the less Sexton actually quickly reaffirmed it would mean nothing should history repeat itself in 12 months time. The commentary however in the game yestersay said something like the 10 biggest minutes in Irish Rugby ever upon us thats nonsense.
That's a Sky commentary. Anyone who's watched football on Sky knows they love to exaggerate everything on their channels. Nobody believes it's the biggest 10 mns in Irish Rugby

Tony ward went one further and said it’s the greatest achievement by any Irish team ever.  We wait Neil Francis views to top that. 
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