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The Huntacha
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Saw a slow-mo replay of Gabriel's hand ball on Twitter yesterday and it actually hits his chest first and then his hand. Surprised it wasn't mentioned on MOTD as a reason for not giving the peno as it's the most logical explanation. Unless I missed them talking about it but IIRC they were using the arm not being extended as the reason instead.
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Roberto Baggio
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You could see it hit his hand with the way the ball spun after it hit it as Dion Dublin pointed out on MOTD2
Also Scamacca’s reaction was a real giveaway Didn’t celebrate at all and looked guilty then went mad when it was given He knew it shouldn’t have stood
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The Arsenal one was a shambals. Linesman told to keep his flag down if in doubt, and VAR would sort it out. Then VAR says it can't sort it out. I reckon the linesman would have put the flag up if he'd known VAR wasn't available
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And takes an age to do so. As usual, Old Big 'Ead was quite corrext when he used to say: "It was a penalty because the Referee said it was" - even when given against his own team.
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Think he is accused of saying something racist no? Which he disputes.
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Anyone able to shed some light on the whole Jordan Henderson thing?
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Apart from the fact that it didn't pick up the offside for Arsenal's first goal on Sunday.
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Roberto Baggio
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There wouldn't be much wrong with VAR if the refs consistently applied the correct rules
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Territorial
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And it shows up the fundamental flaw with VAR, namely that it is meant to introduce certainty into officiating. Which is fine if you're talking eg offside, in that the computer can draw a line and tell you whether the attacker has crossed it etc. (Though it still doesn't cover eg "actively involved", but that's another matter). But the whole point of handball is that it is cheating i.e. someone intentionally using his hand/arm to gain an unfair advantage. And no computer can determine what's going on in a player's mind in the heat of the moment i.e. did he mean to control it, or could he not get his hand out of the way in time. Which is why they're currently tying themselves in knots to come up with an objective test of whether the arm was in "a natural or unnatural position" etc. Which definition is plaainly inadequate. Far better imo to let referees use their own (subjective) judgement and just accept that they may occasionally get it wrong. For at least that way, you don't have the the long, infuriating delay before VAR gets it wrong.
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I’ve no idea what’s handball and what’s not anymore
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BrendanD88
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The West Ham penalty was a joke too! Premier league full of brutal and inconsistent referee’s.
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The West Ham goals being allowed to stand were astonishing
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Heard them trying to explain on MOTD 2 that it was because his arm wasn't extended away from his body, as say Dan Burn's was. Mad decision, couldn't have been a more obvious peno to give IMO.
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Crazy decision imo. I heard if Rashford squared the ball and someone else scored (the disallowed 3rd) it would’ve been fine, but because he scored from an unintentional handball it’s against the rules
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Would a change of formation help. Have they ever played 3-5-2?
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How did Liverpool not get that penalty decision yesterday?
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Diaz out for the new year. Salah completely off form. Pool are f**ked. Fingers crossed after the world cup can get form back and go on a run to get top 4. At the moment it is unlikely to happen
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He's good enough to be converted he is a great passer, excellent fitness and can tackle the odd time. Philip Lahm wasn't a midfielder either
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