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Borussia
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Getting injured in a challenge isn't itself a reason for the other person to be sent off.
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Devrozex
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I just find it bizarre that someone could claim it was the keeper's fault Mané got sent off. If you have any issue at all with the decision the only person you could blame is the ref. The keeper clearly got absolutely milled out of it.
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Roberto Baggio
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Mane in September - correct red card call
Mane and Ederson last night - correct yellow card calls
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Borussia
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To be fair, I wouldn't blame the keeper at all. But I would blame the ref. If that challenge is a red card on that Saturday, it should be a red card every Saturday. But it isn't.
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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Mane was very unlucky with the red card, but it had to be given as a red. Borussias point on the resulting injury not meaning that a card is warranted based on that - that was definitely the case years ago, where you could follow through or leave one on a player once you've gotten to the ball first. Those days are gone though and now there's a big responsibility on players to have a duty of care for the other players on the pitch. So now when a referee sees Mane clearly with eyes on the ball, but catches the keeper in the head with a boot and the keeper lying on the floor, it will always be a red nowadays. Actually not sure why Mane got a yellow last night though, he simply slipped over did he not? Don't there was much contact at all with Otamendi either, thought Otamendis rolling around on the floor was disgraceful carry on. Like Otamendi as a player, but he must go down rolling around for a minute in every game he plays feigning injury.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Hans Moleman
Roy Keane Muff: That is a lie and you are a liar Joined: 09 Aug 2012 Status: Offline Points: 10199 |
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That is simply down to the abysmal standard of refereeing these days. Just look at some of the calls in the Barca Roma, or Pool City ties. Just awful refereeing, and these guys are of the highest level. Dzeko was dragged clearly to the ground by Pique last night, the ref didn't seem to want to give the penalty even though he was very close to the play, luckily the 5th official did. The standard is just mindboggingly awful amongst all levels of refs these days.
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Mulvanystrasse
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Liverpool FC - FC Bayern European Cup semi-final April 1981, 0-0 at Anfield, 1-1 in Munich. Howard Gayle came on as a sub, ran Bayern ragged for an hour or so and then had to be substituted himself before he got sent off.
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Hans Moleman
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37 years since they met in knockout CL football so. Would be a great tie I think
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"I called him an embarrassment to FIFA and to himself," .... He said 'No-one speaks to me like that'.... and I said, "well I do' and that was that."
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Mulvanystrasse
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Was talking to my cousin in Munich this morning, was hoping for another Heynckes - Klopp final like 2013.
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planning
Ray Houghton Football version of Comical Ali. Joined: 17 Mar 2012 Status: Offline Points: 3836 |
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The ref looked at the keeper and made his decision on that, not the challenge itself. Most such challenges get a yellow, the keeper made sure it was not. Hence the uproar at the time, and the scoreline. He was back on the subs bench by the end of the game iirc.
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bhob
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From the top of my head i can remember bot RVP (for Arsenal) & Nani getting straight reds in the CL for high boots but on those occasions the ball was coming over their shoulders and they stuck out a foot to catch it midair, unlike Mane who was running at the keeper and made a stupid challenge. So no, most such challenges don't just get a yellow.
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Roberto Baggio
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With eight stitches in his face
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irishmufc
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So would I
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Gary McKay
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Think it was Ray Kennedy with the late equaliser in Munich.
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"Smalling and Jones.... have the potential to be the PL’s best ever pairing in my opinion." - SlurAlex
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Bob Hoskins
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Bayern and Liverpool in the Semis would be a great contest. I'd prefer if Real got Liverpool or Bayenr though as it would mean a better chance of Real not winning it.
Hopefully Roma or Liverpool can win it, but I'll stick with Bayern as Champions.
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Romario 2016: And the ticket mafia gets caught! Well, four years ago I had already told the government.
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Gavintheslob
Jack Charlton It’s Nessa actually Joined: 21 Oct 2009 Location: Slobsville Status: Offline Points: 7300 |
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Draw today, Roma the obvious choice but will take anyone at this stage
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Its very frustrating being a Slob
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ConorMac77
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I'll be honest and admit that I think Liverpool are in bonus territory now - especially when you look at the hard work they were making of the group stage ie spunking away leads home and away against Sevilla thanks to comically bad defensive mistakes and then wasting enough chances away to Moscow to win 3 or 4 matches but coming away with just a draw thanks to Karius letting a shot in the middle of his net ()! At that time I found it hard to imagine Liverpool even getting out of the group, never mind make the semis! But things are obviously different now. They haven't missed Coutinho and the defence now looks more competent since Van Dijk's arrival (dropping Moreno has also helped, never mind Andy Robertson nailing that position down). Anything's possible now.
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The nation holds it's breath...YES, WE'RE THERE!!!
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Bayern have the league won and Real have top 4 secured. Both those teams (and Liverpool) can rest players for the 1/2 finals. The winner will come from this group. Roma are still in a battle for 4th so don’t have that luxury. Everybody will want them. Still won’t be easy tho. |
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