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As abhorrent as any kind of discriminatory abuse is, he is putting his hand out for it by doing stupid things like this, and can have no complaints when he inevitably gets more next time he's playing.

Just because someone is a footballer doesn't give them carte blanche to act the d!ck. Embarrassing and something that should be condemned to the past. Very immature looking for a cheap laugh.
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Originally posted by Drumcondra 69er Drumcondra 69er wrote:

Fined two weeks wages by Stoke. I like McClean but you have to question what's between his ears. He's just handed away the moral high ground he finally seemed to be getting support for. 
I can’t disagree. He has handled the situation and abuse brilliantly, if emotionally, up to now. He has just handed those that abuse him a genuine reason, or excuse, if you want, for doing it. He can’t even blame the booze for his stupidity! Absolutely astounding from him! I’m not sure of the legal aspects of contracts in the game, but I would imagine he is very lucky not to have had his contract ripped up.
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Hope he leaves Stoke this summer
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Suprised how many defending him, its a unbelievably stupid move afer finally appearing to be getting some support in relation to the abuse he gets. Unfortunately in the eyes of the bandwagon '' but he hates the queen brigade '' he can do no wrong 
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Idiotic behaviour.
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Funny, but definitely idiotic.
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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Hope he leaves Stoke this summer

And go where? Back to Ireland? Europe?
He'll have the exact same problems with most British fans wherever he goes.

I've been a big fan since he came to Stoke, but this weeks twit is just incredibly stupid. He had finally begun to win over many doubting Stoke fans, with his performances since MoN came in.

Hopefully it'll be long forgotten by the time football resumes in earnest next season.
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Originally posted by SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN wrote:

Suprised how many defending him, its a unbelievably stupid move afer finally appearing to be getting some support in relation to the abuse he gets. Unfortunately in the eyes of the bandwagon '' but he hates the queen brigade '' he can do no wrong 

Can you imagine the reaction of the Hates The Queen Brigade if eg an NI player tweeted a photo of himself with flute and sash entitled "Music Lesson"?

The vitriol and abuse would be in directly inverse proportion to the "Sure it was only a joke" reaction they're giving McClean.
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Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Hope he leaves Stoke this summer

And go where? Back to Ireland? Europe?
He'll have the exact same problems with most British fans wherever he goes.

I've been a big fan since he came to Stoke, but this weeks twit is just incredibly stupid. He had finally begun to win over many doubting Stoke fans, with his performances since MoN came in.

Hopefully it'll be long forgotten by the time football resumes in earnest next season.

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Originally posted by SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN wrote:

Suprised how many defending him, its a unbelievably stupid move afer finally appearing to be getting some support in relation to the abuse he gets. Unfortunately in the eyes of the bandwagon '' but he hates the queen brigade '' he can do no wrong 

jesus, clubs would do anything to save money these days.. thats money they can give to 'non playing staff'
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

anyone else it’s a joke. James and he is supporting the RA
Has it ever occurred to you that there might be a reason for that? I mean, his past history of outright and public sympathy for hardline Republicanism?

There was the time when he was completing one of those favourite places/foods/actors questionnaires for an Irish website and when it came to favourite song, out of all the very many famous songs associated with his home city, he chose "Back Home in Derry", allegedly written by Bobby Sands.

Or there's the Free Derry Tattoo. And the public appearances with Martin McGuinness around the time of the Irish Presidential election. Or turning his back on the UJ out in the USA when GSTQ was being played in honour of the visiting team, WBA. Or the announcement on Twitter of "another wee Fenian" in the world following the birth of his child.

His refusal to wear the Poppy is one thing - and he never deserved the abuse he got for that - but this sort of behaviour is quite something else. Indeed, it is hard to recall many other prominent footballers who have so clearly associated themselves with an extreme political viewpoint. Paolo di Canio and Fascism perhaps?
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Probably not as high profile than McClean

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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

anyone else it’s a joke. James and he is supporting the RA
Has it ever occurred to you that there might be a reason for that? I mean, his past history of outright and public sympathy for hardline Republicanism?

There was the time when he was completing one of those favourite places/foods/actors questionnaires for an Irish website and when it came to favourite song, out of all the very many famous songs associated with his home city, he chose "Back Home in Derry", allegedly written by Bobby Sands.

Or there's the Free Derry Tattoo. And the public appearances with Martin McGuinness around the time of the Irish Presidential election. Or turning his back on the UJ out in the USA when GSTQ was being played in honour of the visiting team, WBA. Or the announcement on Twitter of "another wee Fenian" in the world following the birth of his child.

His refusal to wear the Poppy is one thing - and he never deserved the abuse he got for that - but this sort of behaviour is quite something else. Indeed, it is hard to recall many other prominent footballers who have so clearly associated themselves with an extreme political viewpoint. Paolo di Canio and Fascism perhaps?
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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN SUPERWESLEYHOOLAHAN wrote:

Suprised how many defending him, its a unbelievably stupid move afer finally appearing to be getting some support in relation to the abuse he gets. Unfortunately in the eyes of the bandwagon '' but he hates the queen brigade '' he can do no wrong 

Can you imagine the reaction of the Hates The Queen Brigade if eg an NI player tweeted a photo of himself with flute and sash entitled "Music Lesson"?

The vitriol and abuse would be in directly inverse proportion to the "Sure it was only a joke" reaction they're giving McClean.
Maybe just pop on to other forums, you know the other side of the divide forums to see the vitriol you speak of Wink
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If he sticks around in the UK the abuse he has received so far will seem mild (f*ck the Ira, No surrender to the Ira chants etc)

Listen he loves a wind up and i love having him in our squad but he cant moan about their being a reaction to this. 

He will seamlessly replace Johnny Hayes in the Celtic squad.
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Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Originally posted by Stoked Up Stoked Up wrote:

Originally posted by cildaratown cildaratown wrote:

Hope he leaves Stoke this summer

And go where? Back to Ireland? Europe?
He'll have the exact same problems with most British fans wherever he goes.

I've been a big fan since he came to Stoke, but this weeks twit is just incredibly stupid. He had finally begun to win over many doubting Stoke fans, with his performances since MoN came in.

Hopefully it'll be long forgotten by the time football resumes in earnest next season.

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Originally posted by d13dave d13dave wrote:

If he sticks around in the UK the abuse he has received so far will seem mild (f*ck the Ira, No surrender to the Ira chants etc)

Listen he loves a wind up and i love having him in our squad but he cant moan about their being a reaction to this. 

He will seamlessly replace Johnny Hayes in the Celtic squad.

Even from a footballing perspective I would prefer Hayes. I think Hayes gets unnecessary stick at Celtic; he is a committed, if limited, player who gives his all and can play in a few different positions. The off the field stuff would just make it even more complicated.

It is difficult to understand what was going through his head here, it can’t have been much!
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he really is a stupid ***t

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