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Originally posted by GreenDodger93 GreenDodger93 wrote:

He was shocking. His lack of technical ability is astounding 
should be at best an impact sub for Ireland.
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Originally posted by GreenDodger93 GreenDodger93 wrote:

He was shocking. His lack of technical ability is astounding 

the counter attack when he messed up the 2 on 1 was a joke. 
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Originally posted by GreenDodger93 GreenDodger93 wrote:

He was shocking. His lack of technical ability is astounding 

Was away on hols so just watching the game now. He wasn't shocking by any definition. Stoke were poor all round and couldn't cope with the Leeds press but he was one of their better players and one of the few to match the tempo. Poor decision to square it when two on one but he put a serious shift in defensively. 


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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

Originally posted by GreenDodger93 GreenDodger93 wrote:

He was shocking. His lack of technical ability is astounding 

the counter attack when he messed up the 2 on 1 was a joke. 
He was always going to f**k that up, I knew the second he broke free. What was needed was composure, spatial awareness and some skill, but, you know...
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quite possibly the worst footballer in our team. 

I know he gives his all, he'll die for the shirt, hates the queen blah blah blah but sweet Jesus he's very very limited. 

Point still valid. No new club or fresh start is gonna change this. Shouldnt be near our starting 11
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Shouldn't be near our starting eleven? Who, aside from Brady, and that is a serious debate, should be ahead of him?
The fact that there is only one player that can be argued should start ahead of him means he will remain either in our starting eleven or very, very close to it.
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Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Shouldn't be near our starting eleven? Who, aside from Brady, and that is a serious debate, should be ahead of him?
The fact that there is only one player that can be argued should start ahead of him means he will remain either in our starting eleven or very, very close to it.

Daryl Horgan is a better footballer and can pass the Ball and show some composure on the ball. Not a headless chicken booting the ball away every time he gets it or running off teh pitch with the ball. 
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He is a liability if we want to play any sort of constructive style of football; however, the evidence points to O'Neill having no interest in doing that, so it makes sense that he starts when we're playing in such a direct, power-based style.

On an aside, it's a pity he hasn't spent a few of the last summers intensively working on his skills in the same way as he seems to obsess over his fitness, it may have proved much more beneficial to him in the long term.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

He is a liability if we want to play any sort of constructive style of football; however, the evidence points to O'Neill having no interest in doing that, so it makes sense that he starts when we're playing in such a direct, power-based style.

On an aside, it's a pity he hasn't spent a few of the last summers intensively working on his skills in the same way as he seems to obsess over his fitness, it may have proved much more beneficial to him in the long term.

He is, what, 27 ? 

At that age you have what you have. He’s not gonna develop skills like Denilson with some drills. 


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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

He is a liability if we want to play any sort of constructive style of football; however, the evidence points to O'Neill having no interest in doing that, so it makes sense that he starts when we're playing in such a direct, power-based style.

On an aside, it's a pity he hasn't spent a few of the last summers intensively working on his skills in the same way as he seems to obsess over his fitness, it may have proved much more beneficial to him in the long term.

He is, what, 27 ? 

At that age you have what you have. He’s not gonna develop skills like Denilson with some drills. 

29 actually. Of course you can, the idea that your brain suddenly ceases to be able to learn anything new when you hit 18 is nonsense and completely illogical; how would any adult ever master new skills/jobs if that was the case? Certainly it's not as easy to improve as when you are a child, but given McClean's intensity and commitment, if he were to focus that more on technical improvement than raw fitness training I have no doubt he could make improvements to his game.
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That’s not fully true. 

Motor skills are developed at a young age . Congnitive skills are different altogether. 
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Originally posted by houghton88 houghton88 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Shouldn't be near our starting eleven? Who, aside from Brady, and that is a serious debate, should be ahead of him?
The fact that there is only one player that can be argued should start ahead of him means he will remain either in our starting eleven or very, very close to it.

Daryl Horgan is a better footballer and can pass the Ball and show some composure on the ball. Not a headless chicken booting the ball away every time he gets it or running off teh pitch with the ball. 


Horgan has better control but is equally as headless and his passing is dreadful. He certainly isn't better than McClean.
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Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

That’s not fully true. 

Motor skills are developed at a young age . Congnitive skills are different altogether. 

Motor skills such as driving, flying a plane, learning a martial art etc etc are regularly achieved in adulthood; as I said, it is not as easy, but nor is there a discrete cut-off point for improvement.
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Originally posted by houghton88 houghton88 wrote:

Originally posted by pre Madonna pre Madonna wrote:

Shouldn't be near our starting eleven? Who, aside from Brady, and that is a serious debate, should be ahead of him?
The fact that there is only one player that can be argued should start ahead of him means he will remain either in our starting eleven or very, very close to it.

Daryl Horgan is a better footballer and can pass the Ball and show some composure on the ball. Not a headless chicken booting the ball away every time he gets it or running off teh pitch with the ball. 



Horgan cant get a game for Preston!
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It’s quite clear that our two best wingers are Robbie Brady and Callum O’Dowda. 

Both favour playing on the left but as Brady is the better player I’d prefer to have him in his more natural position. 

Callum Robinson may push McClean further down the pecking order in due course. 
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Not sure if Robbie Brady is our best winger, was poor throughout Euro qualifying and seemed to be in a sulk a lot.
The best I have seen him play was for the U-21s down in Sligo when he played on the right.
 
 
 
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by BabbsBalls BabbsBalls wrote:

That’s not fully true. 

Motor skills are developed at a young age . Congnitive skills are different altogether. 

Motor skills such as driving, flying a plane, learning a martial art etc etc are regularly achieved in adulthood; as I said, it is not as easy, but nor is there a discrete cut-off point for improvement.

Motor skills don’t mean using a motor you lunatic LOL
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