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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25100 |
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Just clarify on poor behaviour, I don't think Doherty's England press conference would be in that category in fairness but I don't think it's good from a squad standpoint if he's publicly saying how embarrassed he was to us and the rest of the world. This should be kept in-house. It's better to engage in usual un-insightful platitudes on post-matches when speaking to the media who can twist things and deal with any gripes in the camp. As for Roy Keane, poor behaviour is an understatement and certainly deserved in his case but there's no point going over Saipan for the millionth time. |
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32815 |
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Horsebox you are using a quote from a journalist rather than from Doherty. I can't find any quote from Doherty that he said we gave up
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horsebox
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My initial comment was based on what his article said, so this is all I went by, I just thought the comments from Doherty I felt were very harsh. |
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When the devil got a hold of me, He wouldn't set me free, So he kept me soul for ransom. na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na na. I'm a sailor man from Glasgow to |
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25100 |
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I was referring to the media. I don't admit any of that as Doherty for all I know could mean it as slight swipe at other players or he might just mean it in general. I don't think he should be using stronger language like embarrassed when speaking to the media.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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@Muff,
Have you ever been in a changing room and the manager walks in and starts asking questions? No-one speaks up and just nod their heads pretending everything is rosy in fear of being singled out. Yet 10 minutes prior, players are whinging and bad mouthing the manager and other players between themselves. In-House talk can be extremely cheap.
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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Four-Four-Two
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people seeing what they want to see. doherty gave a throwaway comment, no evidence other than peoples imagination it is aimed at kenny
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zizu Kilbane
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So.....has Randolph said anything yet?
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"Sometimes, sh*t happens, someone's gotta deal with it, and who ya gonna call?"
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32815 |
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But the journalist had put that in Doherty can only be judged on the words he uses not what a journalist implies he said. |
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Baldrick
Robbie Keane Peyton-tly Pedantic Joined: 18 Sep 2008 Location: Ireland Status: Offline Points: 32815 |
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But its what the players and manager think that count and I doubt they had an issue with it. You are seeing what you want to see. There is a load of projection going on.
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25100 |
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I take it that case isn't in a professional football setting. Given the media exposure that international professional football has, players have to be careful about what they say publicly nowadays even if it makes for standard interviews with the usual boring platitudes. I would rather Doherty have an outburst in the dressing room after the game or in a squad meeting where it's resolved and we don't hear anything about it rather than public comments that lead to speculation of an unhappy camp and the media then pursuing it. |
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irishmufc
Robbie Keane I love Vulvas Joined: 09 Aug 2011 Location: Dublin Status: Online Points: 25100 |
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Listen, I hope you're right regarding the bit in bold and Kenny even said he had no problem with it in fairness but I'm not projecting anything or seeing what I want to see. I have nothing against Doherty but I just didn't like his previous comments regarding O'Neill and his comments after the England game. I don't have any agenda against any Irish players or managers past or present but If I think they deserve criticism, then I'll say it without having some blind hatred for them. Doherty does have a bit of a mouth on him all the same though.
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Wings? They're only the band The Beatles could have been.
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Green Devil
Robbie Keane Aye Kes, I've pissed me-self again Joined: 06 Oct 2010 Location: Barbados Status: Offline Points: 22174 |
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It happens in every dressing room in every sport at every level, absolutely no question. This is a ruthless environment these lads are in, do you honestly think a few comments in the media is anything compared to the sacrifices and challenges these lads have had to deal with it in order to "make it" ? The problem with the world nowadays is that everything is up for grabs to "upset" first or to "cause offence" , who's to say his comments couldn't have had a positive reaction whereby more senior players in the squad actually agreed with him and the standards/performance levels were now looking to be upped?
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"He drives two Ferraris; I think he's a very lucky lad to have 50 caps for Ireland,"
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daithi
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The Randolph thread is missing, is he gone or not, I know D69 says he is not gone so I presume some hack has made up some pony
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Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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daithi
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I wonder what Gerry Peyton makes of it all
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Just because it's tradition does not make it right
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irishmufc
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What has that got to do with anything?! I think you're slightly straying off topic into a rant at the easily offended brigade/culture on your last point tbh. Like yourself I haven't a notion if his comments were received well or not within the camp but I do think in general it's better not to be publicly airing your frustration out in front of the media and using terms like embarrassed as it could lead to disharmony within the squad imo. |
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50%lesssugar&salt
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He says that Randolph can return as goal keeping coach
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Healy52003
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Great servant and no doubt saved us many a time
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Baldrick
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