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Originally posted by Onyd Onyd wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:


Three absolutely tragic deaths and certainly in my area of Tallaght, we got away fierce lightly.
 
I believe the Met Éireann and the Govt were absolutely right to not underestimate Ophelia, with the amount of fallen trees and flying objects, it's highly probable a good deal more than three would've died.  I didn't leave me gaff all day except to go the back garden for me dogs to go the jacks.

Exactly. 100s of fallen trees across the east coast and this ONYD bellend wants it downgraded. Imagine how many more deaths there’d have been...
Hold up old chap. That's not what I said. Bad as it was in the nation's capital and its commuter towns it was nowhere near as bad as Cork and the West coast. I'm simply asking was the same approach accross the board the right call. Getting people off the roads in Dublin city was not needed. It was in rural areas.

Please have the manners to engage your brain.

Why take a chance though? Was one day. Storm wasn't bad where I am at all but still a number of uprooted trees that tore half the footpath with them. Best advice across the board for the safety of all was stay inside.
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Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

It needs to be said they there were 3 absolutely needless deaths today. Why didn't these people heed the warnings. It's tragic but they were preventable


Are you blaming the people themselves for this?


I'm not 'blaming' anyone. I understand there are now 3 grieving families. But the fact is that all the emergency services were advising people not to drive and to stay in doors. So unless these 3 individuals were out because they themselves were in an unavoidable emergency situation then there deaths were preventable.


The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home


 
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
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Originally posted by DonkeyOatey DonkeyOatey wrote:

Originally posted by Onyd Onyd wrote:

Originally posted by 9fingers 9fingers wrote:

Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:


Three absolutely tragic deaths and certainly in my area of Tallaght, we got away fierce lightly.
 
I believe the Met Éireann and the Govt were absolutely right to not underestimate Ophelia, with the amount of fallen trees and flying objects, it's highly probable a good deal more than three would've died.  I didn't leave me gaff all day except to go the back garden for me dogs to go the jacks.

Exactly. 100s of fallen trees across the east coast and this ONYD bellend wants it downgraded. Imagine how many more deaths there’d have been...
Hold up old chap. That's not what I said. Bad as it was in the nation's capital and its commuter towns it was nowhere near as bad as Cork and the West coast. I'm simply asking was the same approach accross the board the right call. Getting people off the roads in Dublin city was not needed. It was in rural areas.

Please have the manners to engage your brain.

Why take a chance though? Was one day. Storm wasn't bad where I am at all but still a number of uprooted trees that tore half the footpath with them. Best advice across the board for the safety of all was stay inside.


This, Seen a few uprooted trees along the Oscar Traynor road on way to work this morning. mostly young beech trees but if one of them hit you you'd know about it.

The government made the right call. Tragically 3 people died, thanks to government warning that is less then it could have been.
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I just sent the quare wan down to the chinese, told her it would be dodgy to take the car so she should walk and she said ok, i was only doing it so she could get a good airing of her box


Charming.....in the morning why don’t you read your post out loud to your mother or your daughter.
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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

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Originally posted by SuperDave84 SuperDave84 wrote:

Jaysus talk about an overreaction. It's going to be a bit breezy tomorrow. If you lived in Clonakilty or somewhere like that, I'd understand, but a three bed semi d in Cabinteely is going to be grand.


Overreaction?

Tell that to the families of the deceased, those without power and people who have had their property destroyed.

Crass post and sadly seem a lot of it today.


It was in reply to the pictures of people queueing up in Dublin supermarkets, so I stand by it.


Too many people acting the hardman yesterday with comments about it only being a bit of wind etc. The advice was out for a reason and ptobably saved lives as most people were sensible enough to stay inside.

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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

Originally posted by zizu Kilbane zizu Kilbane wrote:

It needs to be said they there were 3 absolutely needless deaths today. Why didn't these people heed the warnings. It's tragic but they were preventable


Are you blaming the people themselves for this?


I'm not 'blaming' anyone. I understand there are now 3 grieving families. But the fact is that all the emergency services were advising people not to drive and to stay in doors. So unless these 3 individuals were out because they themselves were in an unavoidable emergency situation then there deaths were preventable.


The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home


 
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.


Agree some companies should be ashamed. I know it shouldn't matter but any idea what the lad worked at?

You'd slightly understand if he worked for emergency services or something like that but to put your employees life and risk is unacceptable.
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Talk of an another Storm heading our way Shocked

http://www.independent.ie/irish-news/hurricane-ophelia/storm-brian-to-hit-ireland-this-weekend-after-storm-ophelia-leaves-behind-a-trail-of-destruction-36235095.html


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Heard that lad in Dundalk has a new born baby and was ready to move into a new house. Very sad
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
Not sure who's to blame or whatever, but where I work I'd say 60-70% of showed up to work only to be told to go home again. 2 unnecessary journeys that could have been tragic. 

Bit of a inquiry today as to what we could have done to prevent people coming in. Management had a call on Sunday afternoon to decide that they could tell staff to stay home, but when it came to it, each manager had to tell their staff. Turns out half of my team had decided "sod that, I don't want my boss to have my private number" so he didn't have numbers for all of them. They were available to HR but HR couldn't call/text 600 people on a Sunday afternoon.
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Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
Not sure who's to blame or whatever, but where I work I'd say 60-70% of showed up to work only to be told to go home again. 2 unnecessary journeys that could have been tragic. 

Bit of a inquiry today as to what we could have done to prevent people coming in. Management had a call on Sunday afternoon to decide that they could tell staff to stay home, but when it came to it, each manager had to tell their staff. Turns out half of my team had decided "sod that, I don't want my boss to have my private number" so he didn't have numbers for all of them. They were available to HR but HR couldn't call/text 600 people on a Sunday afternoon.


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There were some blown down trees even in Tallaght, but overall it was very underwhelming.
Can't believe the kids are off school again. They are wrecking my head while I am trying to work
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Originally posted by t_rAndy t_rAndy wrote:

There were some blown down trees even in Tallaght, but overall it was very underwhelming.
Can't believe the kids are off school again. They are wrecking my head while I am trying to work
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Those who were told they wouldn't be paid could've applied for Force Majeure surely...........
 
As for those complete idiots panic shopping, it was one day, did they not get any food in last week at all?  Spas.
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I think a lot of organisations were shown up. Structures not in place, managers not bothered on a Sunday cascading the message.
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Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
Not sure who's to blame or whatever, but where I work I'd say 60-70% of showed up to work only to be told to go home again. 2 unnecessary journeys that could have been tragic. 

Bit of a inquiry today as to what we could have done to prevent people coming in. Management had a call on Sunday afternoon to decide that they could tell staff to stay home, but when it came to it, each manager had to tell their staff. Turns out half of my team had decided "sod that, I don't want my boss to have my private number" so he didn't have numbers for all of them. They were available to HR but HR couldn't call/text 600 people on a Sunday afternoon.


Why not?
 
Exactly. Imagine you'd been given the day off but HR weren't bothered to let you know because there were too many people to get in touch with so instead to went to work and were sent home, then you got injured on the way.
 
My missus works for the company that employs 1,000 people and they were all let know the night before. It's not asking much to send out a company wide email telling people to stay at home.
 
Another issue I found was that a few of my mates were told it up to them if they wanted to go to work or not, so basically the company saying if you stay at home grand but you won't get paid. That's basically holding your employees to ransom. Not everyone can afford to be taking unpaid leave from work which is equally disgraceful.
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
Not sure who's to blame or whatever, but where I work I'd say 60-70% of showed up to work only to be told to go home again. 2 unnecessary journeys that could have been tragic. 

Bit of a inquiry today as to what we could have done to prevent people coming in. Management had a call on Sunday afternoon to decide that they could tell staff to stay home, but when it came to it, each manager had to tell their staff. Turns out half of my team had decided "sod that, I don't want my boss to have my private number" so he didn't have numbers for all of them. They were available to HR but HR couldn't call/text 600 people on a Sunday afternoon.


Why not?

 
Exactly. Imagine you'd been given the day off but HR weren't bothered to let you know because there were too many people to get in touch with so instead to went to work and were sent home, then you got injured on the way.
 
My missus works for the company that employs 1,000 people and they were all let know the night before. It's not asking much to send out a company wide email telling people to stay at home.
 
Another issue I found was that a few of my mates were told it up to them if they wanted to go to work or not, so basically the company saying if you stay at home grand but you won't get paid. That's basically holding your employees to ransom. Not everyone can afford to be taking unpaid leave from work which is equally disgraceful.



Unless it specifically states it in their contracts. Those companies are obliged to pay them regardless given it was less than 24hrs notices
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Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by lassassinblanc lassassinblanc wrote:

Originally posted by Shedite Shedite wrote:

Originally posted by bhob bhob wrote:

Originally posted by Shoco Shoco wrote:

The lad that was killed up here was returning home from work.

Not everyone everyone had the luxury of being told to stay at home
His employer should be hung out to dry for not closing their office.
 
Imagine if they had of just closed for one day. The one day in the last 50 years where we had a code red weather warning. That man would be alive today. It's f**king disgraceful people we're told by their employer to either come to work or stay at home but you're not getting paid.
Not sure who's to blame or whatever, but where I work I'd say 60-70% of showed up to work only to be told to go home again. 2 unnecessary journeys that could have been tragic. 

Bit of a inquiry today as to what we could have done to prevent people coming in. Management had a call on Sunday afternoon to decide that they could tell staff to stay home, but when it came to it, each manager had to tell their staff. Turns out half of my team had decided "sod that, I don't want my boss to have my private number" so he didn't have numbers for all of them. They were available to HR but HR couldn't call/text 600 people on a Sunday afternoon.


Why not?
Exactly. Imagine you'd been given the day off but HR weren't bothered to let you know because there were too many people to get in touch with so instead to went to work and were sent home, then you got injured on the way.
 
My missus works for the company that employs 1,000 people and they were all let know the night before. It's not asking much to send out a company wide email telling people to stay at home.
 
Another issue I found was that a few of my mates were told it up to them if they wanted to go to work or not, so basically the company saying if you stay at home grand but you won't get paid. That's basically holding your employees to ransom. Not everyone can afford to be taking unpaid leave from work which is equally disgraceful.
The logistics of Mr HR man sitting at home, typing out 600 text messages. Storm would be over before he's done. We don't have emails on our phones so company wide email wasn't available till Monday morning.

In your example above, shure you could be hit by a bus after work today - company's not liable. If people are that concerned for their safety they took the governments warning and stayed indoors for the day. I can see both sides of the argument.

Agree with ONXD, a lot of companies were shown up.
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