Ryan Giggs

900 games at the very highest level
12 league winners medals
Say what you want about the chaps private life but he hasnt broken any laws in what he's done and his on field achievements will probably never be beaten
Absolute legend

horsebox wrote: Shoco wrote: horsebox wrote: Shoco wrote: but this is a football forum, what he does outside of that should be irrelevant and really none of our bsuiness   That's because he plays for Utd -put him in a Liverpool jersey and you have a 100 pager. And secondly that's bollocks all players have a duty to behave in a professional manner both on and off the pitch. He is a MASSIVE role model for so many people because of his achievements. So your point is irrelevant about it being none of our business. so he cant ride who he wants in private because he has a duty to behave in a professional manner? would ya cop on ffs im sure theres load of professional footballers riding all around them and fair play to them like i said its none of our business as hes not done anything illegal What about the millions of people who would refer to him as a role model? This really boils down to the fact that he plays for Utd and nothing else. Utd player up to his eyes in some disgusting controversy - Utd fans turn the other cheek. Unf**king believeable.  I am sure if this was a Celtic player you would be foaming at the mouth.

I am not a utd fan so that argument is flawd. Its the other way around, You are so biased for celtic and Liverpool its urneal. 

Whyou give a sh*t about two foreign teams who play under the flag of the Union jack I will never know. 

Who ws the first british team to win the European Cup. 

Which British team have won the european cup the most times.

Give you a clue you support both of them

Suarez behaviour has been disgusting and John Terry's looks to be also but I will let the course case deal with that. 

Racist behaviour  in the work place needs to be stopped

What two consenting adults get up to, is none of my business, and we should not even know about it.  Sex and relationships its a personal matter and not one that fans of football clubs need to know about. 

However how you behave in the work place to your fellow work colleagues is something that the custodians of the clubs and the game need to know about. 

That is the crucial difference between what Suarez and Terry and Gigs have got up to. 

I would not be sacked for behaving like giggs in my job, but I would be if I behaved like John Terry (if found guilty) and like Suarez. 

That's a fair point one that I understand with and agree with.

Edited by horsebox - 15 Feb 2012 at 10:55pm

Remember lads there is people out there who would think that f.airyiing into a sock or into a baby wipe is disgusting behaviour so we cant have the thought police or the sex police judging what goes on behind closed doors. 

can you explain hows this is anyones business other than the people involved?

i dont buy the role model argument, giggs doesnt choose to be a role model, he just plays football, its other people that have put that tag on him

No I am not, but thats my moral compass.  But everybody has a different moral compass and there is no wrong or right in it. Its a personal matter.  That is why there is no law against it.  It falls into the realm of personal matters, and I may not want to be friends withsome for it, professional I would never judge anyone who got up to any of that behaviour as logn as it does not break the law in the country that I am living in. 

Live and let live otherwise we go down a dangerous road of dictating how people behave in private.

again please explain how this is anyones business other than the people involved?

I agree with Horsebox and that its grand to agree to disagree, as long as people set out their point clearly and argue it coherently without going down the Siralex road of belittling someone and saying things like that is the most stupid point every made on a football forum and me my 27 mates are all hear laughing at it.  :) 

Giggs always comes across as a nice guy in media and he obviously is a great professiona regarding keeping himself fit etc.  If its true that he cheated on his missus with his brothers wife and that there was no permission given by anybody in relation to it, and I was his brother I would be fuming and if it happend to me I would never speak to my brother again. However I always have a suspicion that there is money behind these things, and with his brother getting back with his ex after she sold her story for loads of money my sympathy would be pretty low for them. She then had the cheek to give out, when some other bowsie claimed he was riding her at the same time, saying someone was just tryint to make money out of her :)