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On a goals per game ratio he's one of our top scores ever in senior internationals. 
I could agree with you but then we'd both be wrong.
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What if you had one cap and one goal?
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Originally posted by Trap junior Trap junior wrote:

What if you had one cap and one goal?
You’d have scored in every gameCool
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Ireland have had I think three such players with 100% records, i.e. Johnny Squires ( 1934 ), Owen Madden ( 1936 ) and James ' Maxie ' McCann ( 1956 ).
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Stephen Ireland has scored 4 competitive goals.

Shane Long has 5 in 13 years.
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

For the reasons that Doherty has outlined. 

He had such potential and was a quality player for us. In the very unlikely event of him returning there would also be a sense of closure and I don't necessarily want to use the word justice (as the damage was largely self inflicted) but for the way he was allegedly treated by Stephen Hunt at the time it would be nice to see him in green again. 


But he doesn't play football any more.

You could argue that he never fully recovered from his broken leg in 2016.

He shouldn't be anywhere near the Ireland team.
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

Ireland have had I think three such players with 100% records, i.e. Johnny Squires ( 1934 ), Owen Madden ( 1936 ) and James ' Maxie ' McCann ( 1956 ).

I looked this up before, Paddy Bermingham and Jimmy McCann also managed one goal in each of their only appearances. Madden scored on his only appearance for the IFA, but the goal on his one appearance for the FAI is disputed - some reports credit it to Jimmy Dunne.
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4 goals in 6 appearances. He outscores many of our current internationals on far more caps.

Pity how things turned out. 
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Originally posted by reddladd reddladd wrote:

4 goals in 6 appearances. He outscores many of our current internationals on far more caps.

Pity how things turned out. 




Jeff Hendrick - 2 goals in 54 caps.

I think all of Ireland's goals were important ones too.

- Winner v San Marino
- Winner v Wales
- Scored in 2-2 draw away to Slovakia

Not sure on the 4th one - was it in the 5-2 vs Cyprus? Maybe not so important.....
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If he only had to use his brain when playing football he would have been alright. 
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Correct Belt, opened the scoring in that horrific 2-5 loss in Cyprus.  

Waste of massive talent, he won't be getting anywhere near Kenny's squad. 

F*ck him, he's not yesterday's news, he's last decade's. 
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Originally posted by FREEWHEELER FREEWHEELER wrote:

Correct Belt, opened the scoring in that horrific 2-5 loss in Cyprus.  

Waste of massive talent, he won't be getting anywhere near Kenny's squad. 

F*ck him, he's not yesterday's news, he's last decade's. 


And that's if he was still playing football.  The chap hasn't had a club in 18 months!LOL
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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Stephen Ireland has scored 4 competitive goals.

Shane Long has 5 in 13 years.


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Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

For the reasons that Doherty has outlined. 

He had such potential and was a quality player for us. In the very unlikely event of him returning there would also be a sense of closure and I don't necessarily want to use the word justice (as the damage was largely self inflicted) but for the way he was allegedly treated by Stephen Hunt at the time it would be nice to see him in green again. 


But he doesn't play football any more.

You could argue that he never fully recovered from his broken leg in 2016.

He shouldn't be anywhere near the Ireland team.

At present I agree. In the very unlikely event of a miraculous successful comeback with a decent club he should be welcomed back to the international fold. 

Granted, there is an element here of regret and possible self delusion on his part in making a comeback, however what a comeback it would be if it were to happen.

Notwithstanding the above, I don't see a valid reason to have this thread in the rest of the world section. This isn't comparable to a Grealish or Rice situation. Stephen Ireland is a fully capped international and is more comparable to a retired international (threads of which all have remained on the ROI section).
 
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The key word being "miraculous".

The chap clearly has mental health issues.
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Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

For the reasons that Doherty has outlined. 

He had such potential and was a quality player for us. In the very unlikely event of him returning there would also be a sense of closure and I don't necessarily want to use the word justice (as the damage was largely self inflicted) but for the way he was allegedly treated by Stephen Hunt at the time it would be nice to see him in green again. 


But he doesn't play football any more.

You could argue that he never fully recovered from his broken leg in 2016.

He shouldn't be anywhere near the Ireland team.

At present I agree. In the very unlikely event of a miraculous successful comeback with a decent club he should be welcomed back to the international fold. 

Granted, there is an element here of regret and possible self delusion on his part in making a comeback, however what a comeback it would be if it were to happen.

Notwithstanding the above, I don't see a valid reason to have this thread in the rest of the world section. This isn't comparable to a Grealish or Rice situation. Stephen Ireland is a fully capped international and is more comparable to a retired international (threads of which all have remained on the ROI section).
 

Fock off LOL

Even if he was in the form of his life, he could be too much of a disruptive force in the squad. It's a needless risk. I couldn't imagine all the players wanting him in the squad. 

He burned his bridges with the association and was disrespectful to previous managers by not bothering to return calls and insulting another as being 'arrogant' which was pretty rich coming from him. Any possible mental issues he may have shouldn't serve as an automatic shield to criticism over his own bad behaviour for years. 

He said something years ago along the lines off that he wasn't too bothered watching Ireland and would rather go to the gym. Well he has all the time in the world now for that. 

He can rot away in exile. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by irishmufc irishmufc wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

Originally posted by horsebox horsebox wrote:

Originally posted by 50%lesssugar&salt 50%lesssugar&salt wrote:

For the reasons that Doherty has outlined. 

He had such potential and was a quality player for us. In the very unlikely event of him returning there would also be a sense of closure and I don't necessarily want to use the word justice (as the damage was largely self inflicted) but for the way he was allegedly treated by Stephen Hunt at the time it would be nice to see him in green again. 


But he doesn't play football any more.

You could argue that he never fully recovered from his broken leg in 2016.

He shouldn't be anywhere near the Ireland team.

At present I agree. In the very unlikely event of a miraculous successful comeback with a decent club he should be welcomed back to the international fold. 

Granted, there is an element here of regret and possible self delusion on his part in making a comeback, however what a comeback it would be if it were to happen.

Notwithstanding the above, I don't see a valid reason to have this thread in the rest of the world section. This isn't comparable to a Grealish or Rice situation. Stephen Ireland is a fully capped international and is more comparable to a retired international (threads of which all have remained on the ROI section).
 

Fock off LOL

Even if he was in the form of his life, he could be too much of a disruptive force in the squad. It's a needless risk. I couldn't imagine all the players wanting him in the squad. 

He burned his bridges with the association and was disrespectful to previous managers by not bothering to return calls and insulting another as being 'arrogant' which was pretty rich coming from him. Any possible mental issues he may have shouldn't serve as an automatic shield to criticism over his own bad behaviour for years. 

He said something years ago along the lines off that he wasn't too bothered watching Ireland and would rather go to the gym. Well he has all the time in the world now for that. 

He can rot away in exile. Thumbs Up

We are really speaking on the hypothetical here but there is little to no evidence that I can see that would make me think he would be unwelcome or a disruptive force.

All the arguments for having this thread on ROW appear to be based on emotion 
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He walked out on us. Holy jazus, does that mean another sh*te fest from Barry Egan? 

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