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Originally posted by howieb howieb wrote:

Playing against Salah , Aguero , Mane , Sterling and Hazard he'll always been improving and challenging himself . He'd be playing in the championship total different quality opposition then go to the euros and play against France or England .. massive step up 
Of course, but any move can go wrong and he could be playing nobody. When Blackburn sold him their fans were amazed anybody wanted. Transfers are a gamble. Anyway, I don't think it can make him that much  better or worse at this stage.
One thing I would be fairly certain of about is that he won't have to worry about the Euros.
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Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.
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He’s nowhere near as bad as Hans is saying
He’d probably get in most EPL starting XIs outside the top 6

A discussion on 5 live recently when they were naming their best premier league XI outside the top 6 using only one player from each team had him in it 

Hans is making out like he’s irish league standard who can just head the ball 


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He’s nowhere near as bad as Hans is saying
He’d probably get in most EPL starting XIs outside the top 6

A discussion on 5 live recently when they were naming their best premier league XI outside the top 6 using only one player from each team had him in it 

Hans is making out like he’s irish league standard who can just head the ball 

The day that Everton bring him back, or Wolves buy him, I'll p*ss myself laughing because it would be a matter of games before their fans realised he is completely out of his depth. Imagine himself and Michael Keane together at Everton, I'd pay to see that LOL

He simply isn't that good. Nothing more to it. I'd expect possibly Burnley to look at him if Brighton go down. 
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

He's well ahead  of them 2. Ask Chris Hughton if he'd swap any of them 2 for him .. There's a reason he plays every week in the premier league and they don't. 
The reality is he plays for a premier league team regularly , He's the first name on the Ireland team sheet as centre back and he has been player of the year for Ireland 2 years in a row for Ireland. That's not because of his height 
I think some judge him in his performances under Trap and O'Neill when we were sitting deep , backs to the wall football and not for Brighton when he's been defending on the ground and passing the ball from the back. 
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

Huh?

We have no chance of top 2 in our group imo.

We are going to be in a playoff SF most likely and then it will be dependent on the level of opposition obviously. We get hugely lucky and face N Ireland and 2 similar standard sides, we have a chance. I wouldn't be backing us with your money though.


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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

What do you mean we're going to win the euros . Beat England 6 - 5 in the final . Curry Rice with the winner OG 
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

Huh?

We have no chance of top 2 in our group imo.

We are going to be in a playoff SF most likely and then it will be dependent on the level of opposition obviously. We get hugely lucky and face N Ireland and 2 similar standard sides, we have a chance. I wouldn't be backing us with your money though.

We're top of the group, of course we have a chance of finishing in the top 2, it's nothing short of idiotic to suggest we don't. More than that, it's almost inconceivable that we would finish outside the top 3, so clearly we have a fairly reasonable chance of making the Euros.
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Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

Huh?

We have no chance of top 2 in our group imo.

We are going to be in a playoff SF most likely and then it will be dependent on the level of opposition obviously. We get hugely lucky and face N Ireland and 2 similar standard sides, we have a chance. I wouldn't be backing us with your money though.

We're top of the group, of course we have a chance of finishing in the top 2, it's nothing short of idiotic to suggest we don't. More than that, it's almost inconceivable that we would finish outside the top 3, so clearly we have a fairly reasonable chance of making the Euros.

I don't think you understand the qualification system. 3rd is a total irrelevance. After beating Georgia I expect us to finish 3rd now.

The table is totally false. It will be ludicrously false in the summer when we've beaten Gibraltar again. We have done the sum total of zero in those group so far. The only way of finishing top 2 is to get a good few points off the Swiss and Danes in those 4 fixtures, which just won't happen imo.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

Huh?

We have no chance of top 2 in our group imo.

We are going to be in a playoff SF most likely and then it will be dependent on the level of opposition obviously. We get hugely lucky and face N Ireland and 2 similar standard sides, we have a chance. I wouldn't be backing us with your money though.

We're top of the group, of course we have a chance of finishing in the top 2, it's nothing short of idiotic to suggest we don't. More than that, it's almost inconceivable that we would finish outside the top 3, so clearly we have a fairly reasonable chance of making the Euros.

I don't think you understand the qualification system. 3rd is a total irrelevance. After beating Georgia I expect us to finish 3rd now.

The table is totally false. It will be ludicrously false in the summer when we've beaten Gibraltar again. We have done the sum total of zero in those group so far. The only way of finishing top 2 is to get a good few points off the Swiss and Danes in those 4 fixtures, which just won't happen imo.

Get a result in Denmark and i believe we'll do it ..
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A result away to Denmark would be huge, no doubt about that. If we lose in Denmark though, we will need some great results in succession in 6 months time.
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Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Originally posted by The O'Shea The O'Shea wrote:

Originally posted by Hans Moleman Hans Moleman wrote:

Would agree, it's highly unlikely we'll have to worry about the Euros. Also, he clearly has very little football intelligence. He reminds me of those CBs who are like dogs chasing a ball. Nothing is thought through. Everything is 'win the ball', 'win the ball', 'win the ball'. That makes for a terrible CB a lot of the time.

Would disagree also about how the Irish defence would look without him. He really isn't that far ahead of Clarke or Keogh imo. If he even is ahead of them.

I think the height thing gives people a perception of him that doesn't match reality whatsoever.

Surely it's highly unlikely that we WON'T have to worry about the Euros, after our start we're essentially guaranteed a playoff at the least? This is a hard Euros not to qualify for, and given how well we played against Georgia, if we can continue that it's not at all hard to see us being there.

Huh?

We have no chance of top 2 in our group imo.

We are going to be in a playoff SF most likely and then it will be dependent on the level of opposition obviously. We get hugely lucky and face N Ireland and 2 similar standard sides, we have a chance. I wouldn't be backing us with your money though.

We're top of the group, of course we have a chance of finishing in the top 2, it's nothing short of idiotic to suggest we don't. More than that, it's almost inconceivable that we would finish outside the top 3, so clearly we have a fairly reasonable chance of making the Euros.

I don't think you understand the qualification system. 3rd is a total irrelevance. After beating Georgia I expect us to finish 3rd now.

The table is totally false. It will be ludicrously false in the summer when we've beaten Gibraltar again. We have done the sum total of zero in those group so far. The only way of finishing top 2 is to get a good few points off the Swiss and Danes in those 4 fixtures, which just won't happen imo.

We've "done" a sum total of 6 points out of 6 ffs LOL
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Hans you are one miserable ****! Sick of listening to you bring doom and gloom to practically every single thread.

Your level of negativity on here is tedious and at times insufferable.

Shane Duffy could easily be playing for a top 8 Premier League side, he is a proven leader and solid top flight player. Brighton have hit a sticky patch and suddenly he's a Championship level player. A bit of intelligent perspective please Wacko


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And if Lionel Messi was 6"5 he wouldn't be the best player in the world
 
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If he was 5'10 he wouldnt be a footballer.

If he was 5'10 it would have completely altered his development as a player/playing style. He'd probably be quicker, better balanced etc. Theres no way of knowing if he'd have made it or not.
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Duffy is getting some unfair criticism, he is a good lower-end premier league defender and I think there would be plenty of teams looking to sign him if Brighton go down. You'd imagine most promoted teams would love to sign him as would some of the other relegation battlers. He is poor enough on the ball but he is brilliant in the air, strong, brave, good tackler. An old school centre half, he is prone to the odd error but he is by a distance our best centre back and one of the first names on our team sheet.
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