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Originally posted by kevin100 kevin100 wrote:

Originally posted by tonyjaa tonyjaa wrote:

Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:


Hard to believe what has happened to him in the last 18 months.

Hard to believe he made it as a pro footballer

Neve give up on your dreams folks , u might bluff and fluke it in the end

This is very simple Duffy was successful in a Chris Hughton team where they played deep and it made him and Duffy look top notch. Same for Ireland. 

Under Potter and Kenny they try to play with the ball and pass it. He’s been exposed he can’t play that style. 
Celtic this has been showcased most wildly as Celtic dominate against most teams by default. They play high up. 

He’s been exposed and basically in that scenario that’s what he is League 1 or League 2 player. 

Did I think he’d be as bad as he has been? No I didn’t I won’t lie. He also has had a rough time privately by all accounts.

Not to say he wouldn’t be an asset in a certain type of team. I think he’d be fine playing for Palace or Burnley if he went there for example. 

Reality is if Kenny wants to lay down any sort of foundation for the future then Duffy needs to be on the bench simple as. Egan Clark O’Shea,Collins I’d even play Coleman CB before I’d play Duffy. 

I wouldn’t kick him out the squad as he’s been an asset to us deserves a squad place for the moment. Football didn’t start in October. 

I agree with all of this. 

If we'd a match next week i wouldn't be starting him. His confidence is gone completely, but i'd still have him in the squad. 

To respond to a later question, maybe Celtic thought they'd get away with it despite the fact that they have a lot of the ball and play high up the pitch as he was dropping down a considerable level from where he was 
 

No he can’t play and if Kenny wasn’t trying to play possession football my thoughts might be different but my goodness he really shouldn’t play him and he needs to show conviction now and not play him. 

I don’t think god himself could have predicted he’d be as bad as he has been for them. I think Celtic thought he would handle it and while it was a worry for me yes in Scotland the level was low enough he’d get away with it.
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Maybe it’s a bit much but with Egan, Clark, O Shea, Collins all performing better is he still guaranteed a place on the squad? What would others think? Maybe I’m being a bit harsh but for a man that was suppose to go up and win the league for Celtic it’s been a disaster of a year. 
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If Kenny picks him for the squad it will be on past performances of a few years ago. 

The system exposes all his weaknesses such as possession, pace and passing etc.

If anything, picking him for the squad would be a token gesture and playing him would be putting even more pressure on him. Which he really doesn't need.

I'd say leave him to find his form again and settle down. Give him some space to collect himself



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I think he has to stay in the squad for now, maybe even just for his own benefit, dropping him completely would probably only damage his self confidence further. He's a leader off the field and a strong voice in the dressing room as I understand it.

Having said that though, I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to see him actually play given his form and Kenny's preferred playing style. You'd have to have Egan, Clark, Long, O'Shea and Collins ahead of him at the moment.
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

I think he has to stay in the squad for now, maybe even just for his own benefit, dropping him completely would probably only damage his self confidence further. He's a leader off the field and a strong voice in the dressing room as I understand it.

Having said that though, I can't imagine a situation where I'd want to see him actually play given his form and Kenny's preferred playing style. You'd have to have Egan, Clark, Long, O'Shea and Collins ahead of him at the moment.

I can see your point buts it’s Kennys job to pick the best available 23.
At the moment I don’t see Duffy in our top 4 CB’s. It’s our strongest position at the moment. 
He shouldn’t be picked based on current form.



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Player cam on Duffy for St Mirren's winner today.
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stick him up front with connolly, throw back to big man little man combo
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need to open a poll. How many would want him starting for us if we had a game next week

I could just about understand the support he was getting in the autumn as he had a bit of credit in the bank but he's not getting any better
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Originally posted by Jimmy Raggatip Jimmy Raggatip wrote:

need to open a poll. How many would want him starting for us if we had a game next week

I could just about understand the support he was getting in the autumn as he had a bit of credit in the bank but he's not getting any better

He certainly had credit in the bank and is the last player to score for us and possibly one of the most likely to score for us. Having said that his form should mean that he doesn't start given how crucial the coming games are. Dropping him from the squad  as previous posters suggested is extreme, for me he still has enough credit in the bank to merit being in the squad (for now at least). 
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[QUOTE=DR.HUGO]I said it before I will say it again it’s all about belief in himself and being confident....right now he’s at rock bottom he needs to leave Celtic ASAP and a manager who can pull him out of the mire.
Mick McMCarthy would do it he’s brilliant at man management although as others on here have said Chris Hughton would be great if forest were interested.
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Shamrock Rovers on loan would be a good call for him, European football and a chance to regain his confidence. Not sure if the money would add up but a short term loan deal wouldn't hurt.
Not on your nelly. Cark can have him for their promotion tilt..
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He needs to leave Celtic 

Yeah. It's best for Celtic at this stage rather than him.

Not really sure where he's gonna go from here considering the lower tiers of English football is basically punt the ball forwards 60 yards and he can't handle it at a Scottish level.
It isn't. Most teams in League two either play possession or counter-attackibg styles of football.
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 I've looked at the st Millen second goal a few times and I really have no idea what Duffy was trying to do.

Duffy is right next to the forward when he first gets the ball, by the time the forward shoots on goal Duffy is 10 feet away... 
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Are these " offering a guy a fight on Facebook " rumours true?

A Derry city player apparently

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Big improvement tonight
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A clean sheet and no mistakes from Duffy. They seem to have finally found his best position.
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Thats uncalled for. 

I'm sure Tony would previously have referred to this as "hun behaviour" abusing/mocking one of his own players. 
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Originally posted by You Tell Me You Tell Me wrote:

A clean sheet and no mistakes from Duffy. They seem to have finally found his best position.

Indeed , hopefully Ireland find a similar position for him or we're getting tanked

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