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Joel Lynch out of the Ipswich game through injury Tom Flanagan will probably be his replacement.
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should beat Ipswich tomorrow Parkinson has turned it round should be in contention for February Manager of the month 
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The fatal mistake he made was letting McGeady go . The most naturally gifted player in the league by a mile . The hard grafting journeymen that are left might make the play-offs but more likely it's going to be another soul destroying season in the third division . I'd back Charlton to stay in the Championship now . As for signing that waster Lafferty instead of pushing the boat out for Liam Boyce....another monumental error unfortunately .
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Originally posted by Green Cockade Green Cockade wrote:

The fatal mistake he made was letting McGeady go . The most naturally gifted player in the league by a mile . The hard grafting journeymen that are left might make the play-offs but more likely it's going to be another soul destroying season in the third division . I'd back Charlton to stay in the Championship now . As for signing that waster Lafferty instead of pushing the boat out for Liam Boyce....another monumental error unfortunately .
Yea thought it was a mistake not getting Liam Boyce it's a major worry where the goals are going to come from.
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Good buzz about Sunderland today its International Fans day.
 
There are SAFC supporters over for the Ipswich game from Taiwan Ireland Bulgaria Italy Denmark Sweden Germany Canada USA Portugal Holland and Malta.
 
Loads over from Cork and Dublin looking forward to meeting them in about an hour.
 
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Sounds class
160 over for it  fans related events going on in the city too.
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having a pint with some boys from cork great to folks from all over the world supporting Sunderland
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Classic game of two half's Sunderland struggled first half much better second half massive win.
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A Win is a Win and an important 3 points we will take it
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A Win is a Win and an important 3 points we will take it
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I'll be the first one to admit that I felt the club needed to get rid of Parkinson, fair play to him for turning it around because it looked extremely unlikely.

I dread to think what will happen if Sunderland don't get promoted this season, another year in League 1 would be a disaster.  
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I dread to think what will happen if Sunderland don't get promoted this season, another year in League 1 would be a disaster.  

I can see all the reasons why that would be so, but there are other reasons why it need not be.

For the Championship is by far the hardest division to get out of if you don't have parachute money (which I believe runs out after this season for Sunderland).

For in order to be competitive, you have to pay Championship wages and if a buying club, Championship transfer fees. And even for a well-supported club like Sunderland, after 2 or 3 seasons that can really screw you on FFP.

And of course if you don't pay the wages and fees etc, at best you struggle to avoid relegation, which makes it hard to keep/attract players, as well as hurting crowds; at worst, you get relegated again.

If investment from the Board is there to sustain them, it might not be the worst outcome to spend another season in L1 while Parkinson turns the club round further (i.e. beds-in the youngsters and recent signings etc), whilst the Board* sorts things behind the scenes.

That way they could be much better placed to compete properly and sustainably at the higher level.


* - Of course all that is dependent upon their having the vision, organisation, patience and aptitude for such a process, which I'm entirely unqualified to judge. Anyone?


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Originally posted by Territorial Territorial wrote:

Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I dread to think what will happen if Sunderland don't get promoted this season, another year in League 1 would be a disaster.  

I can see all the reasons why that would be so, but there are other reasons why it need not be.

For the Championship is by far the hardest division to get out of if you don't have parachute money (which I believe runs out after this season for Sunderland).

For in order to be competitive, you have to pay Championship wages and if a buying club, Championship transfer fees. And even for a well-supported club like Sunderland, after 2 or 3 seasons that can really screw you on FFP.

And of course if you don't pay the wages and fees etc, at best you struggle to avoid relegation, which makes it hard to keep/attract players, as well as hurting crowds; at worst, you get relegated again.

If investment from the Board is there to sustain them, it might not be the worst outcome to spend another season in L1 while Parkinson turns the club round further (i.e. beds-in the youngsters and recent signings etc), whilst the Board* sorts things behind the scenes.

That way they could be much better placed to compete properly and sustainably at the higher level.


* - Of course all that is dependent upon their having the vision, organisation, patience and aptitude for such a process, which I'm entirely unqualified to judge. Anyone?
I'd agree with GD on this I feel Sunderland need to be promoted this season regardless of who becomes our new owners.Any club that gets the second biggest attendance in the UK over the weekend needs to be in at least the championship.

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I think most Sunderland fans would be more than happy to consolidate in the Championship next season (if we got promoted for argument sake) and didn't spend beyond our means chasing the dream of making it back to the PL.

The Championship is where we need to implement our long term plan, you don't need to spend tens of millions or crazy wages to stay up in that division. We went down with zero fight the last time we were in the Championship, a general acceptance from the then chairman and a complete clusterf**k of unplanned and desperately poor signings to basically fill a squad.

As of now looking at Sunderland's squad, the difference between this squad and the one of two years is that the players at the club right now are there because they care and want to be at the club you can see it when they win a game or how they celebrate (which has been rare for Sunderland fans to see given the amount of mercenaries we have had over the years) that with 3 or 4 shrewd loan signings, a few experienced heads with Championship experience in key positions and maybe a few quid to spend on transfers fee's we could be competitive next season (if we got up)

Our owner wants out anyway, I have no doubt being in the Championship would appeal to perspective new owners/investors more so than in League 1 so even in that regard it's fairly crucial we get up sooner rather than later.


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Re. 'DM' and 'GD' - Fair enough.
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Originally posted by Green Devil Green Devil wrote:

I think most Sunderland fans would be more than happy to consolidate in the Championship next season (if we got promoted for argument sake) and didn't spend beyond our means chasing the dream of making it back to the PL.

The Championship is where we need to implement our long term plan, you don't need to spend tens of millions or crazy wages to stay up in that division. We went down with zero fight the last time we were in the Championship, a general acceptance from the then chairman and a complete clusterf**k of unplanned and desperately poor signings to basically fill a squad.

As of now looking at Sunderland's squad, the difference between this squad and the one of two years is that the players at the club right now are there because they care and want to be at the club you can see it when they win a game or how they celebrate (which has been rare for Sunderland fans to see given the amount of mercenaries we have had over the years) that with 3 or 4 shrewd loan signings, a few experienced heads with Championship experience in key positions and maybe a few quid to spend on transfers fee's we could be competitive next season (if we got up)

Our owner wants out anyway, I have no doubt being in the Championship would appeal to perspective new owners/investors more so than in League 1 so even in that regard it's fairly crucial we get up sooner rather than later.
Exactly a championship club is much more attractive to potential new investors than s league one outfit.
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Re. 'DM' and 'GD' - Fair enough.
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