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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

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Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.

Lenihan was woeful in Athens, I'm surprised he made the cut this time tbh. Having watched Duffy a couple of times this season, I'd definitely have him in ahead of Lenihan. There's a fair argument one of McNally or McGuinness should be in ahead of Lenihan also.

Lenihan has been woeful every time he's played, he shouldn't be in the squad given the many younger options available with far more potential.
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Originally posted by Baldrick Baldrick wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.

Lenihan was woeful in Athens, I'm surprised he made the cut this time tbh. Having watched Duffy a couple of times this season, I'd definitely have him in ahead of Lenihan. There's a fair argument one of McNally or McGuinness should be in ahead of Lenihan also.


Everyone was woeful in Athens, he had a very good game against Ukraine last summer.

He wouldn't be my pick either but its who I think Kenny will go with.

Id rather him over Duffy anyway, was disaster waiting to happen last time he played for us against a team pressing hard. He really got away with several clangers due to Scotlands inability to finish, the French or Dutch wont need anymore than one of those mistakes to punish us.

Lenihan or Duffy should not be on the pitch starting against France.  

We have enough in Egan, OShea Collins and Andrew.  All four should start. 

Egan is likely not fit and even if he is, he is on the cusp of suspension, a yellow vs France rules him out of the (more important) Dutch game. I think he'll be rested vs France for that reason and I think thats fine, ideally he will be fully fit for the Dutch game.
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.

Lenihan was woeful in Athens, I'm surprised he made the cut this time tbh. Having watched Duffy a couple of times this season, I'd definitely have him in ahead of Lenihan. There's a fair argument one of McNally or McGuinness should be in ahead of Lenihan also.


Everyone was woeful in Athens, he had a very good game against Ukraine last summer.

He wouldn't be my pick either but its who I think Kenny will go with.

Id rather him over Duffy anyway, was disaster waiting to happen last time he played for us against a team pressing hard. He really got away with several clangers due to Scotlands inability to finish, the French or Dutch wont need anymore than one of those mistakes to punish us.

Lenihan or Duffy should not be on the pitch starting against France.  

We have enough in Egan, OShea Collins and Andrew.  All four should start. 
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Originally posted by John Nice John Nice wrote:

Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.

Lenihan was woeful in Athens, I'm surprised he made the cut this time tbh. Having watched Duffy a couple of times this season, I'd definitely have him in ahead of Lenihan. There's a fair argument one of McNally or McGuinness should be in ahead of Lenihan also.


Everyone was woeful in Athens, he had a very good game against Ukraine last summer.

He wouldn't be my pick either but its who I think Kenny will go with.

Id rather him over Duffy anyway, was disaster waiting to happen last time he played for us against a team pressing hard. He really got away with several clangers due to Scotlands inability to finish, the French or Dutch wont need anymore than one of those mistakes to punish us.


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Originally posted by Greenie50 Greenie50 wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 
Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.

Omobamidele - Collins - O'Shea for me.

Pace needed against that French forward line.




That's the backline that conceded 2 in quick succession to Latvia back in March. AO was hooked after an hour with Egan needing to be brought on to calm them down. Really need an experienced head in there to guide them, and with Coleman, Egan, & Doherty all out it has to be Duffy.

I don't hate the idea of Omobamidele at RWB - he's quality in possession and has the pace to try and deal with Mbappe.

Omobamidele - Collins - Duffy - O'Shea - Stevens (Dead)

Not an awful backline on paper, but Stevens is a clear weak link for me - can't remember him having many good games for us even when he was a Premier League regular.
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Originally posted by Bandwagon Bandwagon wrote:

Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.

Lenihan was woeful in Athens, I'm surprised he made the cut this time tbh. Having watched Duffy a couple of times this season, I'd definitely have him in ahead of Lenihan. There's a fair argument one of McNally or McGuinness should be in ahead of Lenihan also.
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Can see it being Lenihan over Duffy tbh. Much better with the ball at his feet and when O'Shea and Egan have been out hes been the one to come in both times.
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Originally posted by Pinginí Pinginí wrote:

Duffy would unironically be our biggest goal threat against France. Omobamidele has barely played this season and wasn't picked to begin with. Duffy has to start.

Omobamidele played two full games in The League Cup. They won both games 1-0 vs Championship opposition.

So not completely cold.

Duffy is good in the air, but France are a pretty monstrous team with Giroud, Rabiot, Tchouaméni, Koundé, Upamecano and Saliba all 6ft+ in height. Pavard and Disasi also.
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Originally posted by Pinginí Pinginí wrote:

Duffy would unironically be our biggest goal threat against France. Omobamidele has barely played this season and wasn't picked to begin with. Duffy has to start.

With Coleman and Doherty out, both O'Shea and Omobamidele come into the reckoning for that RWB spot vs Mbappe. It's either one of them or one of Browne, Knight, Ogbene, Ebosele. It mightnt be the nicest debut to hand Festy tbf. I'd play Duffy CB and start Omo at RWB.
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Duffy would unironically be our biggest goal threat against France. Omobamidele has barely played this season and wasn't picked to begin with. Duffy has to start.
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Omobamidele is the best equipped to deal with Mbappé 1 vs 1.

Duffy would be useful if France opt for Giroud as their ST.
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Originally posted by J89 J89 wrote:

Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 

Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.


Omobamidele - Collins - O'Shea for me.

Pace needed against that French forward line.




Ireland defence is probably gonna be camped around it's 18 yard box for most of the night. Plus only way we're likely scoring in Paris is Duffy getting his big head on the end of a set piece.
This. We won't need pace at the back with how deep we'll be sat. I'm not convinced about Collins in the middle yet either, he seems to have a mistake in him which is definitely not a desirable trait in the middle of a back 3. Right again, despite all the intentions of progressive football, on nights like this Duffy could well be our biggest goal threat again. 
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 

Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.


Omobamidele - Collins - O'Shea for me.

Pace needed against that French forward line.




Ireland defence is probably gonna be camped around it's 18 yard box for most of the night. Plus only way we're likely scoring in Paris is Duffy getting his big head on the end of a set piece.
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Originally posted by Maccatacca Maccatacca wrote:

Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 
Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.

Omobamidele - Collins - O'Shea for me.

Pace needed against that French forward line.




That's the backline that conceded 2 in quick succession to Latvia back in March. AO was hooked after an hour with Egan needing to be brought on to calm them down. Really need an experienced head in there to guide them, and with Coleman, Egan, & Doherty all out it has to be Duffy.


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Originally posted by SeaSharp SeaSharp wrote:

Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 
Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.

Omobamidele - Collins - O'Shea for me.

Pace needed against that French forward line.
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Originally posted by irish_major irish_major wrote:

Seems to almost certainly be out. 
Collins Duffy O'Shea it is then. Duffy is effective in backs-to-the-walls jobs, no biggie.
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Seems to almost certainly be out. 
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Will probably call up Omobamidele now as cover.
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